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Protests have been regularly shown to let emergency vehicles through, I saw videos of this yesterday.

>>adjkan+(OP)
Usually "I saw videos of this" isn't a good argument, though I do agree. I've yet to see any proof of protests causing an emergency vehicle to arrive too late, while there are numerous counterexamples. The most memorable to me was the video of a street absolutely packed in France where they made room for the ambulance to drive through.

>>adjkan+(OP)
Except for the "Open States Up" protests that occurred that had hospital personal begging the protestors to let the emergency vehicles through. But that's a different type of crowd.

>>MDWoli+Qb
This is a commonly repeated rumor about the Michigan lockdown protests, but its absolutely not true[1].

"Despite some "confusion," Lansing police had no complaints about any ambulance being locked in traffic during an emergency, said Robert Merritt, a spokesman for the Lansing Police Department. When ambulances on non-emergency runs were in traffic, "rally participants slowly cleared a path," he said."

[1] https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/0...

>>MDWoli+Qb
I don't remember hearing anything about police dispersing those crowds with tear gas. I wonder why.

>>mcv+jf
I'm gunna go ahead and assume it was due to the the lack of violence and looting.

>>mcv+jf
I thought the right to bear arms was useless for defending against tyranny when the government has nukes and apache attack helicopters.

>>benmw3+Oj
I'm gunna go ahead and assume it was due to them being conservative white guys with guns.

>>mcv+jf
Do you think this might have something to do with it? https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-16/nations-bigg...

>>chipot+yu
Turns out guns are important for protecting yourself against government overreach and abuse. Who knew?

>>jtbayl+3M
Judging by how black people _thought_ to have guns are treated, I’d say white skin is better at protecting you.

>>jkestn+WW
I would say that is correct.

(Fascinating trivia: California allowed open carry until the Mulford Act in 1967 restricted it -- directly in response to the Black Panthers practicing it. The Act was signed into law by Ronald Reagan, with the explicit support of the National Rifle Association.)

>>jascii+Su
Of course it does. The police are Trump’s brownshirts, whether he knows what’s going on or not.

Edit: I mean, come on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eVPKpBKGCE

>>jtbayl+3M
Fun fact, the reason why california banned open carry was to prevent the black neighborhoods in Oakland from policing themselves as armed citizens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

>>lliama+bs
So maybe all the protesters against police violence should arm themselves. But considering how eagerly US police uses "I thought they had a gun" as a reason to shoot someone, I fear it would turn into a massacre.

People have done tests with white people and black people open carrying in exactly the same way. Black open carriers got a very different police response.

>>jtbayl+3M
Guns work very well when you're white. Not so well when you're black.

>>monadi+6m1
Firefly fans? Or do you mean brownshirts?

>>mcv+yn1
Corrected, thank you, I apparently had that embedded in my brain from 15 years ago.