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It seems like in a democracy that voting should be able to effect the changes we need. What has gone wrong?

>>mrfusi+(OP)
We have a system of Democracy that emphasizes property over people.

>>mrfusi+(OP)
Are you serious?

1. If that were true women would still be unable to vote. Would you tell women in 1905 that "it's a democracy, you don't need to protest, just vote."

2. Even now, we have seen the power that be make it more and more difficult to vote. The current administration is throwing a complete temper tantrum at even the thought of letting people use absentee ballots during a national pandemic, citing the voter fraud boogeyman.

>>nemoth+e3
Women didn’t shoot cops in the back of the head, burn down city hall, steal and loot stores. These aren’t protests they are riots.

>>rpiguy+Yc
Protests and riots aren't mutually exclusive

>>SirYan+nd
Yes they are. Rioting is not protest. It is criminal activity. Your right to protest, assemble, and speak does not include setting buildings with children inside on fire, murdering pawn shop owners, killing federal officers.

I fully support everyone out there marching not committing crimes.

>>rpiguy+Yc
>Women didn’t shoot cops in the back of the head, burn down city hall, steal and loot stores

In what timeline are you talking about? Women's Suffrage definitely had protests turn violent. Here[1] is source about documenting this violence, and I went through the trouble of finding a source published 2 years ago in order to counter any narrative that it's "convenient" for today's issues. History has a way of whitewashing and romanticizing what were difficult fights for rights.

Large protests turn violent, and I'm not surprised that, with record unemployment as well, that looting is being amplified as well.

Besides, in any case, it's long established that peaceful protests don't even work. A man can't even kneel during a sports game without his protest being diminished.

[1] https://www.bl.uk/votes-for-women/articles/suffragettes-viol...

>>nemoth+Tl
Not so much in the US.

>>rpiguy+ao
Are you sure of that or are you just talking out of your ass? A 10 second google search would say you are wrong.

>>rpiguy+Je
Do you think the french revolution happened peacefully ? Do you think the 2nd amendment is there to peacefully do thing ? Do you think slavery would have ended with peaceful protests ?

Nothing of importance is accomplished peacefully when the other side doesn't have to follow the law and is making the rules on the fly. "B-bu-but the rioters, they're bad =(" yes they are, but they're not the root cause, we have to stop shifting the blame on the very last link of the chain.

> Your right to protest, assemble, and speak does not include setting buildings with children inside on fire, murdering pawn shop owners, killing federal officers.

So what ? What's the biggest issue here ? A system rotten to the very core or people burning stuff because they are fed up of being fucked over and over again. People don't go out and get beat, shot at or tear gassed for fun, if you think they're the issues YOU are the issue. You play the exact same card as most medias, hiding the insanely huge systemic issue behind a "hey look there people are breaking stuff, how dare they!".

The US is turning into a Turkey or Egypt and a lot people seem fine with that, can't wait to read the history books in 50 years.