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1. ravens+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-02 19:10:48
All ideas should be considered, but yours is not one I subscribe to. More people have been killed and had their lives destroyed as the result of non-protestors taking advantage of the protests to destroy communities. This is before the actual protests themselves have even been given a chance to succeed without violence. To subscribe to your perspective, I would have to believe that rioting and looting is the way to address police violence, and that the protesters and rioters are on the same page. If that were the case, then the country should be set on fire for the number of crimes it commits.

Put simply, there's no need for a "but". Once can make both statements without implying that one has precedence over the other.

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2. heavys+Hb[view] [source] 2020-06-02 19:58:39
>>ravens+(OP)
How many people have these non-protestors killed? Are you talking about police or what you'd describe as rioters?
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3. ViViDb+Pc[view] [source] 2020-06-02 20:05:51
>>ravens+(OP)
> More people have been killed and had their lives destroyed as the result of non-protestors taking advantage of the protests to destroy communities.

[Citation needed]

I find it hard to believe that a few days of these riots has caused more damage and loss of life than generations of racial oppression and police brutality. If you’ve got a source, I’m all ears.

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4. ravens+jf[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 20:19:31
>>ViViDb+Pc
> [Citation needed]

If you had simply asked me to share what I know, I would have given you some links. But I have a distaste for the "[Citation Needed]" meme because it's pompous, so I suggest you do some basic research yourself. If you can do 2nd grade arithmetic, you can figure out that 2 or more deaths is greater than 1 death. If you've even watched a minute of TV in the last 5 days, I shouldn't have to argue whether more people's lives have been destroyed than if the riots didn't happen at all.

> I find it hard to believe that a few days of these riots has caused more damage and loss of life than generations of racial oppression and police brutality.

That's not even close to what I said.

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5. ravens+rh[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 20:35:51
>>heavys+Hb
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/29/866022166/protests-spread-nat...

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Police-Davenport-officer...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/federal-law-enforcement-officer-k...

https://www.foxnews.com/us/kentucky-man-killed-by-cops-who-d...

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/article/Police-Retired...

https://www.ibtimes.com/george-floyd-las-vegas-protests-1-po...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/top-detroit-news-most-arre...

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Maybe there are more, and I think it's fortunate that the deaths don't appear to be excessively high. But I would still argue these people might not be dead or in critical condition if the rule of law wasn't out of control. I'm no fan of police, but that doesn't mean I don't think about how some kids may have lost a parent.

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6. ViViDb+qo2[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-03 15:02:49
>>ravens+jf
> If you had simply asked me to share what I know, I would have given you some links. But I have a distaste for the "[Citation Needed]" meme because it's pompous,

Totally fair. That wasn’t very conservative. I’m sorry.

> That's not even close to what I said.

Could you clarify what you were saying? I directly quoted you, but I’ll admit your sentence isn’t clear. It says “More” but doesn’t indicate “more than what?”, so I assumed you meant the oppression that rioters are responding to. Maybe that’s not the case.

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