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> I consider an organization on their tenets

No, you don't, or you would consider a religion that endorses literally infinite amounts of torture for anyone who disagrees with them to be violent. There's also its attitudes toward homosexuality (Leviticus 18:22), slavery (Exodus 21:7), murdering people for working on saturdays (or maybe sundays?) (Exodus 35:2), and touching pig remains (Leviticus 11:7), among others.

>>a13692+(OP)
I wholeheartedly condemn a large portion of the evangelical movement, and any religious fanatic, but I also believe that there's a case to be made for more charitable translations and interpretations, and I know several Christians who believe not in the things you listed, but follow the less brimstoney new testament.

But to some extent I do agree with you, otherwise I would still be a Christian which I'm not, for the fact that any belief that subjugates moral philosophy and reasoning to interpreting holy text will always have blind spots.

Either way, I apologize if it distracted from the point I was trying to make, that all organizations, good or bad will have bad actors, but what's important is identifying which organization can be fruitful and which is inherently bad.

Maybe we will disagree on a few there.

>>a13692+(OP)
You’re quoting the Old Testament. The “lesser laws” of which were superseded by the “higher law” instituted by Jesus.

>>colejo+bn
"Slaves, obey your earthly masters" (Ephesians 6:5 and Colossians 3:22) (the easiest one to grep for, since I remember the exact phrasing). Doesn't sound very superseded to me, and Christians continued supporting that right up until the South lost the Civil War (and a fair bit past that in other places) and slavery became politically impractical to defend. So it wasn't a case of a misquotation (by two different sources? really?) being corrected; it was a case of explicitly heretical values being forced on the church at (rather close to literal) gunpoint.

As someone more eloquent than me put it: Christianity had it's chance to rule the world; we call it the Dark Ages for good reason.

>>a13692+(OP)
Er, just to clairify, Islam is also horrible, but I have less in the way of citations for them because I don't interact with them as much and I don't speak Arabic. If you want to look up said citations yourself, I think the search keywords your want would be "sharia law", although "muhammed pedophile" would probably also help.

>>a13692+GU1
Read up on what the Quakers did that whole time.