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It is flabbergasting to me that we expect self-policing from protestors, but not the literal fucking police.

>>lxmorj+(OP)
Policing by police usually leads to escalation. I think that's the point of this submission.

>>lxmorj+(OP)
I think it's normal, reasonable and beneficial. If I had a very strong grievance that lead me to protest, I'd be highly motivated to not let others detract from my message or tarnish it. Nut jobs and provocateurs make it harder for me to attain my goals and can in the worst delegitimise my cause entirely

>>lxmorj+(OP)
Why not both?

>>solsti+Qo
But peaceful protesting hasn’t actually appeared to result in justice for black lives in the past. Black America have had peaceful protesting in Washington DC before it was violently dispersed (so trump could pose in front of a church). We’ve even had mildly disruptive protesting (BLM highway blocking, also violently dispersed). We’ve even had black people not protesting at all (cases of police shooting at people just standing on their own property during Minneapolis curfew).

None of these get more coverage than property violence. None of these got a response from political leadership.

It’s a bad look for the country that the only time our leadership is willing to punish law enforcement relatively mildly (currently the police officer in question is charged for only up to 35 years in prison with his accomplices merely losing their jobs, something statistically has been borne out that they get hired for more law enforcement work in neighboring districts) for killing someone in a terrible and slow manner is when disruption on property happens.

>>xendo+ld
Of and by, not just by. None of this would happen if they checked their own before they murdered someone.

>>lxmorj+(OP)
Well, I think these particular protests are raising the following questions:

1. Should there be police at all?

2. If so, can an institution staffed by these particular people ever function correctly?

The more effectively the protesters self-police, the more powerful an argument they make that you could improve society by disbanding urban police departments and letting the protest organizers assume de facto responsibility for maintaining the social order.

Of course, the other end of the violence spectrum is an effective argument, as well.

>>solsti+Qo
You'd think police should be highly motivated to stop their coworkers from murdering people and getting away with it, but here we are.