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1. autoka+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-02 03:44:14
> "until we sort the issue of cops indiscriminately killing black people?"

Can we please stop making this just about race and recognize we have a general police brutality issue? You do realize cops kill just as many whites as they do blacks. The same police that killed George Floyd also killed Justine Damond.

When you rationalize away the white people who also have been killed, you polarize the issue and give justification to those who are committing violence and looting.

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2. robotr+f1[view] [source] 2020-06-02 03:57:41
>>autoka+(OP)
> You do realize cops kill just as many whites as they do blacks

Normalized for population, in the US the rate is 3X for black people, and a white person's expectation to be killed by police is less than the average.

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/police-officer-shooti...

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3. autoka+p1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 03:59:17
>>robotr+f1
and you could do the SAME thing with black people and homicide and aggravated assault rates. Then you would go on to say those particular rates are racist to say. Are you ready to stop rationalizing away the deaths that everyone is facing and stop arguing over skin color and start talking about police brutality?

or do you want to keep arguing about something besides the point? if so, why?

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4. robotr+R1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 04:04:19
>>autoka+p1
No one is arguing we don't have a police brutality problem. I'm not sure why you hear that.

I think a large rate difference between white and black is meaningful information. Why do you prefer that information not be added?

> Then you would go on to say those particular rates are racist to say.

That didn't happen either. Your expectations are off.

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5. komali+z2[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 04:13:41
>>autoka+p1
> aggravated assault rates.

You actually can't, because such studies are based on arrest rates, not the unstudied "amount it actually happens."

Furthermore, something like that can't be pinned on "race," which is already a nebulous concept that exists only as an ill-defined cultural construct, whereas "cop" is a defined entity.

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6. yters+C2[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 04:13:52
>>autoka+p1
i think the cop issue is a higher standard

cops have a lawful monopoly on force, and if you cannot trust that will be used justly, then we lose the whole basis of rule by law

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