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1. jachee+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-02 01:21:43
The mission statements of every Antifa group of which I'm aware start with "Protect peaceful protests from violent counter-protestors."

Where do you get your information from?

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2. xupybd+SD[view] [source] 2020-06-02 07:40:14
>>jachee+(OP)
It's the it's okay to punch a NAZI that I don't like. I think it's only okay to use violence in self defence or the defence of others. Not as a method of combating an ideology.
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3. thunde+ja1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 13:17:40
>>xupybd+SD
Ok you don’t like it, but how does it compare to having open Nazis marching in your country (presuming you’re American)? Surely you dislike that a lot more?

Ideally we don’t have people punching genocidal racists because they don’t exist to punch. But if they exist and they’re marching in the streets, often protected by a police force which is (certainly now) quite obviously full of far right-wing violent authoritarians, I’d have other priorities than condemning the anti-fascist.

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4. Animal+hN1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 16:47:22
>>thunde+ja1
You may not like it, but in this country, if they're not punching people, they have the right to march.

I disagree with Nazis. I abhor their ideology. I also disagree with punching peaceful marchers, even if they espouse a hateful ideology. "I'm going to use violence to take away your right to peaceful demonstrations" is also an ideology I despise.

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5. jachee+jef[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-07 04:15:55
>>xupybd+SD
Nazis—by simply existing as a hateful-rhetoric-fueled, racist organization—are threatening to the lives and livelihoods of others.

Punching them is just proactive defense of those others.

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6. jachee+wef[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-07 04:18:03
>>Animal+hN1
The Paradox of Tolerance[0] begets a proactive response.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

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