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1. afiori+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-06-02 00:47:49
I am sorry, I am a bit lost, but if Trump election had to be one of those three it would have been a democratic protest against the establishment.

Or were you referring to something else?

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2. krapp+ZU[view] [source] 2020-06-02 10:14:24
>>afiori+(OP)
Many Trump supporters (primarily the alt-right and white supremacist fringe) didn't simply protest against the establishment, and certainly didn't intend to do so democratically (as that would imply a belief in the legitimacy of the system and the views of their opponents.) They voted with the intent of seeing the system destroyed and an ethnostate emerging from the rubble. Reasonable people can disagree about the size and relative influence of this contingent on the election, but it exists.

Drawing too many parallels between that and the protestors would be unfair, particularly where motive is concerned, but it is hard not to notice the energy is the same in a lot of ways. One side doing violence against the system and another doing violence against infrastructure, each because they feel the system has been irreparably damaged by the influence of the other.

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3. afiori+wZ[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-02 11:07:37
>>krapp+ZU
Ok, so what? I have no sympathy for violent far right extremism and I intend to denounce neo-nazist ideologies as much as I can. Especially since it has devolved into (mostly non collective) violence already.

On the other hand your comment is saying that one of the worst thing those groups collectively did was voting. I don't think you are making the argument you think you are making.

On the other hand, if you are saying that the other side might start rioting too; isn't that an argument for deescalation?

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