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1. h3cate+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-05-31 23:41:24
That's the part I personally cannot wrap my head around with all of this. These people are the people they are paid to protect. The people who live in their own communities. Yet they are carrying out these acts like they're in a foreign country.
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2. bosie+o8[view] [source] 2020-06-01 01:02:17
>>h3cate+(OP)
> Yet they are carrying out these acts like they're in a foreign country.

Which would make this better how exactly?

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3. vesky+Nd[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 02:15:05
>>bosie+o8
I did not take that as implying its somehow any better. I took it as a cultural separation that allows for an excuse to forgo morality in inflicting harsh threatments. (easier to bash someone's head in when they aren't your nextdoor neighbour).

Stop assuming the worst of others as the default. Unless of course you're doing it in bad faith.

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4. camero+cf[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 02:34:24
>>bosie+o8
Because people generally care about their local community much stronger than a place they have no ties to?
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5. bradge+nr[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 05:52:55
>>bosie+o8
It’s not better.

Foreign operations are carried out by a military, who define an enemy and set objectives to destroy them.

Policing is different. It’s a domestic affair where the objectives are to protect citizens and improve public safety.

It gets very dangerous when police begin operating like the military, define the citizens they’re suppose to protect as “the enemy”, and then set objectives to destroy them.

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6. koonso+Lw[view] [source] 2020-06-01 07:29:30
>>h3cate+(OP)
I noticed personally that people who are attracted to power are also attracted to being a cop.

In my own school there was a bully who used to bully smaller kids together with his friend. Notice that he always needed his friend, and always needed the kid to be smaller.

Years later I saw him in cop uniform. My first reaction was WTF, but on second thought it made perfect sense.

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7. mam2+UF[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 09:29:40
>>bosie+o8
lol
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8. h3cate+gG[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 09:33:59
>>koonso+Lw
I feel like with bullying it is partly playing up to the crown (in this case the other person they were doing it with). Kids are mean and it sucks but hopefully as he grew older he also matured.
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9. h3cate+SG[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 09:40:07
>>bosie+o8
Sorry I should of been clearer. I didn't mean that would be better, more so that I would expect an army in a foreign country to be in a different mindset to police. A war zone is an extremely high stress environment full of people you do not know. You must see everybody as somebody that potentially wants to kill you. When you are policing in the town you live in, you know the local community. These are not people who you should feel threatened by until they prove otherwise. Still not the clearest answer I know sorry.
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10. h3cate+UG[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 09:40:37
>>bradge+nr
Thank you, you took the words in my head
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11. h3cate+gH[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 09:43:00
>>vesky+Nd
Thank you, you're right. I would assume being in a war zone requires a completely different mindset to being a cop. One has a job of protecting and serving whilst the other has a job of completing the mission at all costs. To me, those two things require completely different mindsets.
12. relaxi+TJ[view] [source] 2020-06-01 10:09:19
>>h3cate+(OP)
Part of the problem is they usually don’t live in the communities with the people they police, they live outside the city in affluent white suburbs. Residency requirements are easily circumvented.
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13. h3cate+YO[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 11:02:29
>>relaxi+TJ
Yeah I can see how that could be a problem. Maybe it should be enforced that at least one officer in every pair should live in the community they're policing? It's not for me however to decide on rules/solutions
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