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not saying there is no value in this initiative, just a reminder, that a camera always hides more than it shows - unknown unnowns etc...

>>zabelt+(OP)
I know, I'm trying to be careful/selective about what I put on the site. Only clear oversteps should be shown in my opinion

>>h3cate+L2
Would you be willing to also add an explanation of why you put each video up? This could quite easily be abused with selective editing.

>>camero+T2
Yes I'd be happy to. I will work on that as soon as I get a chance but might not have the time tonight.

>>zabelt+(OP)
I dont know why this gets downvoted so much. Let me elaborate:

i have witnessed Police brutality first hand. Even here where we dont go through much of the authoritarian training americans are used to, i.e christian churches with heavy influence - here religion is merely a nostalgic thing.

I know also that even here victims of Police brutality basically have No Chance of retaliation.

That beeing said, a video that looks ugly does not necessarily mean the Police acted wrong.

Ok i bite, Link a Video and i will come up with a story that atleast explains the police behaviour, If not justifies it.

>>zabelt+k3
Here you go. Video of cop shooting a guy in the back as he ran away, then planting a gun on him. The officer didn't know the event was filmed, and filed a wholly false police report on the subject.

https://youtu.be/XKQqgVlk0NQ

>>zabelt+k3
Does it mean anything to you, anything at all, that you are willing to defend every single video accusation of police misconduct? What a blanket statement to make.

Maybe you should check your biases.

And here you go,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/judge-releases...

Tell me why this guy deserved to die for losing at a game of Simon Says.

>>h3cate+L2
Yeah that's the Problem, what is a clear overstep? Maybe the 'victim' was totally out of His mind before, maybe he was calmed down before an raged again, maybe he was loaded up with drugs and imposed a danger to himself/Others/the Police. It's not that you could judge what is a 'clear overstep' by the immeriate context you see in the video

>>chillw+l5
My apologies, the USA seem to be more rotten than i thought they would be...my original statement was also to broad, i cannoz defend that video similarilly to how i cannot defend every Police Action in russia or china.

>>Phaedr+B4
My apologies, the USA seem to be more rotten than i thought they would be...my original statement was also to broad, i cannoz defend that video similarilly to how i cannot defend every Police Action in russia or china.

>>zabelt+w5
I completely agree. I would like to set out some defined lines but I have no idea how to go about it. Maybe you can help?

What I can say is that a video was submitted last night of a man who was crawling to a police officer, following his orders, before being shot multiple times and killed. His name was Daniel Shaver. Please look it up and watch the video if you do not believe it is possible to make a judgement as to whether somebody has crossed a line.