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> It's going to be incredibly draining on law enforcement in the US for a few years to identify and prosecute criminals involved in riots

Good. Black people factually live under an authoritarian regime in the US.

>>zouhai+(OP)
They should really have the right to vote!

>>giggle+X2
Yes, and if it weren't for the constant campaigns of voter suppression targeted specifically at their communities, you might be making the point here that you imagine yourself to be.

>>zouhai+(OP)
What are the facts supporting your claim?

>>yters+p6
This definitely seems like a good faith attempt to litigate the history of black oppression in the USA from first principles.

>>throwa+D7
I am not aware of facts supporting the claim that african americans live under an authoritarian regime.

I am aware that a number of african americans have been unjustly killed by police. That is a different claim than african americans are systematically oppressed by the US government.

For instance, compare what is happening in the US to a real authoritarian regime such as the USSR. The government made millions of innocent civilians disappear into the gulags en masse. Try to imagine even the hint of due process, let alone rioting and protests, within that regime.

Or compare what is happening here vs what is happening in China. The CCP places millions of Uighurs into concentration camps for no reason. In the US, we have thousands rioting violently in the streets, and I suspect the majority of the rioters will see little to no consequences for their actions.

>>giggle+X2
Even ignoring voter suppression issues, being in a minority group in a democracy does not preclude authoritarian oppression. This is simple math, known as "tyranny of the majority", and is why the US Constitution is longer than just a paragraph about democratic elections.

>>yters+C8
Why do you believe what you're told about a faraway land, but disbelieve what you can see for yourself in your own community?

>>jessau+p41
why are you asking loaded questions?

>>yters+bG1
Just trying to help! How do you know what you think you know about people you've never met?

>>jessau+jJ1
i would ask you the same thing

you have never met me, but seem to know a whole lot about what i do and do not know

how did you get this information about me, and how do you know it is true? or are you just making a bunch of baseless assumptions?

>>yters+bK1
Everyone in this thread knows you live closer to Minneapolis than to Ürümqi. You started the thread by discounting the difficulties of black people in USA. You wanted someone to give you some "facts" to "support" the claim that racism is a problem. All of us made the same assumption based on that evidence. We don't need to imagine anything else.

>>jessau+1P1
I, for one, have no idea where yters lives

>>jessau+1P1
how would you characterize your efforts to understand what i am saying and communicate in a clear and unbiased manner?

>>yters+yY1
I've made no particular efforts in that vein; you are an open book. In reply to this observation you'll whinge on about how mysterious and unique and totally-not-racist you really are, but will offer no discernible arguments in favor of that proposition. It's really an HN trope by this point: say something totally privileged and douchey, and then insist that you may only be criticized by perfect and omniscient beings when other people call you on it. You're not the first person to do it; you won't be the last.

>>giggle+X2
This comment is why it's important to be more precise than the word "authoritarian." We all live under an "authoritarian regime" to one degree or another.

The problem in this case is that its institutionally racist towards, and extrajudicially assassinates, black people with impunity.

We must be more precise because otherwise it allows _this_ to happen.

>>jessau+p32
it seems you believe i am racist. how did you arrive at that conclusion? or do you assume people who disagree with you are racist?