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1. august+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-05-31 16:42:11
Yup, I'd love if we were able to be a unified front and collectively say the mayhem will not stop until all four involved are charged. And if they're not convicted... 1992 will look like a joke.
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2. jsaxto+Dm[view] [source] 2020-05-31 19:45:20
>>august+(OP)
This whole situation sucks because most people are rightly outraged about police violence, but their anger is totally misdirected. These businesses had nothing to do with the death of George Floyd.

I live in Portland, Oregon now. Without going into too many details, we have an expensive pension program. Many feel that the pension program is too generous, and there has been a lot of thought put into how we can fully fund both pensions and everything else. Last year there was a bill in the Oregon Senate (SB1049) that proposed some modest changes to how pensions work. It passed with bipartisan support, and the public unions went nuts. They said they'd never support a candidate who voted for SB1049.

Last month we had our primaries. The most important primary was the Democratic primary for the Oregon Secretary of State. If the governor were to step down for any reason (to take a cabinet position in the Biden administration, for example), the SOS becomes governor. Someone who opposed SB1049 joined the race at the last minute, got over half a million dollars of union money, outspent her candidate, and won the election.

This is just one of many examples. Even though the unions are only spending a couple of million dollars per year in Oregon, they're really smart about it, and as such, they get what they want. In the Secretary of State race they hit a home run. For half a million dollars, they pushed their preferred candidate through and sent a message that if you oppose them in any way, it will be a career limiting move.

The reason I mentioned that is because I think it is a good contrast to what we're seeing today. With smart leadership, we would have a better chance of solving this problem. But people are enraged and not thinking clearly. And there's no reason to believe that these riots are going to be more successful than the Baltimore riots, the Ferguson riots, the Oakland riots, or even the Rodney King riots.

3. giardi+BH[view] [source] 2020-05-31 22:22:44
>>august+(OP)
aaugustt says>"And if they're not convicted... 1992 will look like a joke."

So what if a jury finds them innocent, which is highly likely? What do you mean "1992 will look like a joke"?

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4. drewmo+PY[view] [source] 2020-06-01 00:37:09
>>august+(OP)
But once you all agree on your demands, methods and victims it's no longer mayhem, just organized terrorism.

If they don't get convicted, will you be terrorizing only the jury, or do you plan on victimizing other innocent people too?

I sure hope you don't, but if you do get your wish please remember to have everyone print and sign their names on the petition/ransom note/demand letter. When choosing targets for arson just be aware it will take longer to comply if you burn down the courthouse(s).

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5. tal8d+K11[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 01:07:53
>>giardi+BH
A billion dollars of property damage and the targeted destruction of businesses operated by Korean immigrants, but multiplied by a factor that will ensure laughter at the memory of those killed in the '92 race riots? I don't know how you could more charitably interpret the "wish".
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6. astura+v31[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 01:30:16
>>giardi+BH
"1992" refers to the riots in LA which were triggered by the acquittal of four police officers who were caught on tape beating Rodney King.

I assume the GP means the civil unrest that will happen if there is an acquittal would be much worse than the LA riots.

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7. giardi+Yg1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 04:59:50
>>tal8d+K11
tal8d said 3 hours ago>'A billion dollars of property damage and the targeted destruction of businesses operated by Korean immigrants, but multiplied by a factor that will ensure laughter at the memory of those killed in the '92 race riots? I don't know how you could more charitably interpret the "wish".'<

I believe you're having problems thinking clearly. Here, in a public forum, you threaten

"A billion dollars of property damage and the targeted destruction of businesses operated by Korean immigrants..."

which is little more than a megalomanic wish. Shouldn't you be taking some medication or, at the least, seeing a psychologist instead of wasting our time here?

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8. tal8d+hp1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 07:28:13
>>giardi+Yg1
lol, either your reading comprehension is poor or your understanding of the '92 riots is... or both, I guess. That was a response to your question about what one could mean when saying "1992 will look like a joke", and I answered that question exactly. Do you not understand how usernames work?
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9. Cathed+2w1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-06-01 08:53:43
>>giardi+Yg1
> Shouldn't you be taking some medication or, at the least, seeing a psychologist instead of wasting our time here?

Isn't this way below the HN discourse bar?

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