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1. _-davi+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-05-29 20:47:03
Target is complicit in racism for trying to stop people from stealing from them? Do you have any evidence that Target systematically lets white people steal from them while calling the cops on non-whites?

Would would you only try to stop somebody who is stealing from you if they were white? If so that would be quite racist! Trying to stop anybody regardless of their race from stealing from you is not racist.

Regardless, according to the tweet you posted the policy is targeting poor people not people of color. 40% of poor in the US are non-hispanic whites. That means this policy would presumably also be targeting a huge number of white people as well.

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2. mindsl+cb[view] [source] 2020-05-29 21:58:27
>>_-davi+(OP)
"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize."

The larger point is the dystopian dynamic of developing a store that is poised against its customers, especially as a testing ground. Technologically defended islands of wealth in the middle of seas of poverty. And the blame isn't even on Target specifically, but the system as a whole that is creating so much suffering in the first place.

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3. _-davi+hj[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-05-29 22:52:09
>>mindsl+cb
>"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize."

What other interpretation am I to draw? The person I was responded to said Target was intentionally creating new policies to put people of color in jail.

If anything the person I was responding to is the one that needs to take a more plausible explanation of what Target was doing.

>The larger point is the dystopian dynamic of developing a store meant to be deliberately poised against its customers, especially as a testing ground.

Stopping thieves is pro-customer. Stores have to mark up the price of the goods they sell to cover the losses from thieves. If less people stole then the price of goods would be less.

I also don't consider a thief to be a customer. Anti-thief is not necessarily anti-customer.

>Technologically defended islands of wealth in the middle of seas of poverty.

Completely unrelated to the topic of Target and possible racism.

Do you have a look on your door? That is a technology that is defending your wealth. Why not leave your front door wide open and let anybody come in and take anything they want?

I am guessing you dislike other people's wealth but are fine with your own.

>And the blame isn't even on Target specifically, but the system as a whole that is creating so much suffering in the first place.

The person I was responding to said "Target is complicit in this systemic disease; I have zero sympathy for them." This seems pretty direct in the accusation that Target is guilty. If he doesn't think the blame is on Target then he would presumably have some level of sympathy for them.

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4. mindsl+2o[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-05-29 23:28:27
>>_-davi+hj
If you can't avoid reflexively jumping on phrases long enough to see the parallels to a common sci-fi theme, then there's no conversation to be had. All I can say is that if you want conservative thought to remain relevant, try applying it where it can be useful. Hint: the breakdown in law and order here started with the police department itself.
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5. _-davi+fB[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-05-30 01:32:57
>>mindsl+2o
>If you can't avoid reflexively jumping on phrases long enough to see the parallels to a common sci-fi theme, then there's no conversation to be had.

I have no clue what you are talking about. What sci-fi theme are you talking about?

>All I can say is that if you want conservative thought to remain relevant, try applying it where it can be useful.

Again I have no clue what you are talking about. I am not making a conservative point. I am just refuting the claim that Target is racist for arresting thieves.

Also seeing how I am being upvoted and you are being downvoted I am guessing my "conservative thoughts" are relevant to many people.

>Hint: the breakdown in law and order here started with the police department itself.

And? That has nothing to do with Target which is all we are talking about.

It also doesn't justify destroying other people's property.

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