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If union rules delay the arrest of an accused officer for any amount of time longer than a civilian charged with the same offense and same facts, it seems reasonable that that union rule should be abolished.

I suspect it's not actually the case and there was some amount of calculation of the ex-officer's risk of flight, the likelihood that he would further offend, and the need to get some forensics, autopsy, and preliminary tox screen results.

In other words, if a civilian under the same set of facts would have also been arrested 4 days later, I'm fine with it. One criminal standard for everyone. Union rules don't have any place superseding criminal laws (and I haven't seen anyone presenting credible evidence that they do).

>>sokolo+(OP)
If me, and 3 buddies - all white took a white man behind a car, kneeled on him until dead while on-lookers video-taped it. How long before the cops show up?

Same scenario w/ a black guy. how long?

Same scenario w/ 3 Cops and a white guy?

Same scenario w/ 3 cops and a black guy?

I'm betting if you could do a study on all these scenarios of 'time to act/prosecute'... you'd find some major biases.

Would they need to do an autopsy or tox screen when there's video evidence from multiple viewpoints and the entire nation has seen the evidence and cops from other cities are calling for arrests? SEriously, this is clear cut. There is no ifs/buts.

3rd degree murder is also a joke, this is 1st degree, you don't kneel on someone's neck while paramedics and a doctor plead w/ you to stop because you're killing him without wanting to kill him, and not w/ someone you've known for 17 years.

>>gremli+yc
TBH, based on my understanding, I think this is 2nd, not 1st degree. I concur it’s not -3. (There’s nothing that precludes a filing of another charge as the investigation develops, of course.)

>>gremli+yc
When cops who choke a white person to death aren't charged, there's far less outrage. For example, David Glen Ward was killed by a police choke hold six months ago. The deputy responsible was fired, but no charges have been filed.

https://www.kqed.org/news/11818476/deputies-blunt-force-neck...

>>leeree+2i
Not trying to justify the cops killing that guy, but it’s a pretty different scenario for at least a couple reasons:

1) The guy was armed and leading a high speed chase

2) I don’t think there is a long, long, documented history of cops murdering the unarmed white guys without any real consequence

>>kitoti+Gv
> I don’t think there is a long, long, documented history of cops murdering the unarmed white guys without any real consequence

There is. Police disproportionately kill black men, but there is ALSO a long history of cops murdering unarmed white men.

>>kitoti+Gv
So how about these?

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1266715217398030336

There does seem to be bias in media coverage and therefore society outrage or lack thereof.