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> As someone else said, this will probably cost the police and city in a settlement.

It probably won't cost the police anything, it'll come out of the taxpayer.

>>monoca+(OP)
Cities can cut jobs, fire police, put police on notice etc. You might not feel like that is enough, but you better believe that any officer who costs the police money is going to be punished. Maybe not equally to someone else but that's not what I was saying.

>>monoca+(OP)
Not dissimilar to someone accused of harassment at work. It’s most typical the company pays and not the offender. People go after the money.

>>bargl+J
> Cities can cut jobs, fire police

They can, but they don't because it would be political suicide.

>>mc32+32
You don't get protected from criminal actions because you committed them at work though.

>>monoca+v8
https://www.wtae.com/article/police-department-shuts-down-af...

Can and does. I'm not saying this is indicative of what frequently happens. But there can be real consequences for the police officers based on lawsuits. I also recognize this was not being pushed down from the city. My statement was an example of how police departments shutting down affect police and how that can happen.

I won't argue that police are appropriately punished due to misconduct. I will argue that they are punished.

>>monoca+Q8
Depends on the union.

>>bargl+x9
The closure of a two man police department when both of them got caught at the same time isn't really a great example.

In a larger department, neither would have lost their jobs, and the larger insurance would have handled it.

>>mc32+A9
No, it doesn't.

>>monoca+Cb
So sexual harassment isn’t a crime? And Unions have never defended members?

>>mc32+hc
Most workplace sexual harassment isn't a criminal offence, no.

Sexual assault is, and there's nothing a union can do to protect you from that.

>>monoca+qb
I'm not going to scour the internet for these examples... I found one in 5 minutes. I assume there are more out there that would require me to spend more time than I'm willing to make the point.

You said doesn't happen. An absolute. I am saying it can happen and it's not the only form of punishment I'm referring to.

Police (the individuals) can be punished for their infractions. It doesn't happen nearly often enough (my opinion). But if you're saying it can't/won't happen I disagree with you. I'd even go so far as to say I believe you to be factually incorrect. While I will 100% change my opinion on this if given a study that proves this has never happened. It's easier for me to assert a shmeybe than for you to assert it never happens. All I need is one instance where as you need none.

Now if you want to say, that's not enough. We won't disagree at all.

>>monoca+(OP)
It would make far more sense to take the costs out of the police pension pot, either the city pot (if it's a systematic problem) or the individual pot (if it's a "bad apple")