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1. Anthon+(OP)[view] [source] 2020-03-31 23:45:44
> Even if they did quarantine others, putting someone on a 14 day quarantine 17 days after contact is hard to explain.

Not that hard. If everyone in the office had contact with someone infected then the best thing to do would have been to quarantine them all right away. Because without that, you now have the possibility that one of them had an asymptomatic case which they could have still had and given to any of the others less than a week ago, which means the others are still inside the window for being infected but not having either recovered or showed symptoms. Which means they still need to be quarantined.

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2. boombo+pl[view] [source] 2020-04-01 03:39:41
>>Anthon+(OP)
Why are they quarantining people because they may have been in contact with the virus but did not quarantine people they know were in contact with the virus?
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3. Anthon+bw[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-04-01 05:46:59
>>boombo+pl
Could be the usual bureaucratic reasons. Left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Or the left hand is correct and they should all be quarantined and the mistake wasn't sending this guy home, it was not sending the others home too.
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4. boombo+kZ[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-04-01 12:20:47
>>Anthon+bw
If these reasons exist, the company put lives at risk for weeks and then fired someone for doing the same thing for one day. Many members of management should have been fired before Monday for this to seem legitimate.
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5. Anthon+nO1[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-04-01 17:12:19
>>boombo+kZ
Not necessarily. Choosing whether to quarantine people is a judgement call, but going into work after being ordered not to is insubordination and trespass.
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6. boombo+Vq2[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-04-01 21:00:25
>>Anthon+nO1
>Choosing whether to quarantine people is a judgement call,

This judgment call changed. If bureaucratic ineptitude was to blame, those people ignored proper procedure, making them insubordinate, and risked lives. And if they found the issue confusing enough to take eighteen days to issue the quarantine notice, they should understand why this employee might think they are being targeted for their labor practices.

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7. Anthon+GR2[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-04-02 00:35:22
>>boombo+Vq2
> This judgment call changed.

The available information changed. This very quickly went from something many people weren't sure wasn't going to be maybe a nasty flu to something that has half the world staying home from work and hospitals getting overrun. Changing your procedures in response to new information is what managers should be doing.

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8. boombo+Ea3[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-04-02 04:43:46
>>Anthon+GR2
This is just wrong, this disease was not some mystery three weeks ago and implying that the Amazon managers just learned of the dangers last weekend is absurd.
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9. Anthon+RM5[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-04-03 04:33:21
>>boombo+Ea3
Three weeks ago there were less than 5000 known cases in the US, now there are about a quarter of a million and the most in the world. The idea that what we know now is equivalent to what we knew then is absurd. Three weeks ago there was some hope it could be contained using ordinary measures.

They'd have been smarter to respond to it sooner, but better late than never.

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10. boombo+Dy7[view] [source] [discussion] 2020-04-03 19:28:54
>>Anthon+RM5
The US declared a national emergency on the thirteenth. Every day past that in which they did not quarantine the employee is a far greater risk than the day he came in. And the idea that they didn't understand the risks until the 28th is ridiculous.

You're trying to spin it both ways. If Amazon was just idiotic about their response to the outbreak, why did they pick that moment to suddenly take things super serious and fire the employee?

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