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The problem is that a video through the lenses isn't going to tell you anything about the experience of actually wearing one of these things.

>>1MoreT+(OP)
Neither is an artist's conception.

I think that this is inevitably going to be a serious problem for selling a product like this to a generation that still remembers Virtual Boy.

>>1MoreT+(OP)
It's going to tell you more than a CGI artist's impression nonsense.

People were able to film through the lenses for standard VR glasses. I can't find anyone that tried it for Hololens but given that they also cost several thousand dollars it's probably not that surprising. I have used the Hololens quite a bit and I can't see any reason why you couldn't film from the eye's point of view.

>>IshKeb+E3
Notice that zero VR companies show you through the lens footage. This is not restricted to Magic Leap. You can find amateur attempts by owners to shoot through Magic Leap, Hololens, and various VR headsets if you go on Youtube and Twitter. But no company does this at all. Just another misunderstanding by people here who think they've found another reason to nitpick at Magic leap, but it's a widespread industry issue. VR is actually the worst about this because they only show straight from the PC output with none of the limitations you actually experience like FOV and screen door effect.

>>Holoma+k4
The thing is that for HoloLens and VR sets we did have people showing it as best they could in a camera and for vr projecting into a monitor. Magic leap held it all secret and we'd be told how magical it was.

>>1MoreT+(OP)
But the fact that they absolutely will NOT permit developers or reviewers to post a video through the lenses, and they tried to pawn off totally fake "artist conceptions" as live demos of actual software they run daily at the office, does tell you a hell of a lot about what the actual experience and the company itself is like.

Magic Leap originally lied about the concept video they posted to youtube, then retroactively white-washed it after they got caught by Time Magazine.

The most infamous misleading video that currently claims to be a "concept video" was originally deceptively titled "Just another day in the office at Magic Leap" and described as "This is a game we’re playing around the office right now". Only AFTER they got busted, did Magic Leap retroactively change the title and description so they were not so blatantly false and misleading.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPMHcanq0xM

Before they got busted and white-washed the lies, a skeptical Time magazine reporter didn't think it looked real, and asked Magic Leap about it directly. The official Magic Leap company spokesman mendaciously lied to him that "the video was authentic":

http://time.com/3752343/magic-leap-video/

>It's unclear whether the video shows an actual game overlaid onto a real-world office space or just an artistic rendering of what the game might look like in the future. The way the gun rests so realistically in the gamer's hand certainly raises suspicions. Still, a company spokesperson confirmed to Gizmodo that the video was authentic.

>"This is a game we’re playing around the office right now," Magic Leap wrote on its official YouTube account.

The "game they were playing around at the office" was actually called "lying to the public and investors".

>>LegitS+H6
Not really. Remember that before their device launched they were ridiculed for being too honest and showing the rock throwing guy demo. This was months before you could buy it: https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/273280-magic-leaps-first-...

>>Holoma+k4
> But no company does this at all.

CastAR/Tilt5 all demos. We also allowed the press to film through our hardware.

>>Holoma+3z
It was hyped for a long time before that. That they released the underwhelming demo is just them failing. But they kept what it actually displayed confidential for a long time.

>>1MoreT+(OP)
One of the funniest eras of advertising was the ads for HD TV broadcast on 480p TV. They’d always include all these video clips & that always made me laugh :-)

>>mch82+Gi1
A pedantic side note: analog TV broadcasts in America were 480i, not even 480p.