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1. kuu+(OP)[view] [source] 2019-08-08 10:09:28
Interesting that only 2 people can moderate million users
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2. mschus+R[view] [source] 2019-08-08 10:20:00
>>kuu+(OP)
Millions of readers, the amount of active commenters is much lower.

In addition, HN doesn't get much of the "classic" troll crowd (no matter if 4chan/8chan/outright real Nazis/gamergate) or Trump supporters - from the occasional politics thread aside, there's nothing much of interest for them here, and so the biggest blocks of trolls simply stay away.

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3. pjc50+q1[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-08-08 10:27:48
>>mschus+R
Partly due to a virtuous circle; the community downvotes the more obvious ones into invisibility, and persistent trolls get banned, and the discussions are curated to select less fertile topics, and the controversy-ometer pushes flamewars off the front page.

The moderators here are very good at doing work upfront to save themselves work later, by making the site infertile ground for troublemakers.

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4. kuu+82[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-08-08 10:37:12
>>mschus+R
Still... I wonder how many messages are reported per day. BTW, I don't get why you're being downvoted...
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5. mschus+C3[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-08-08 10:59:23
>>kuu+82
Probably because I mentioned Trump supporters and -chan trolls as the biggest block of trolls on the 'net and have "Antifa" in my profile. Ah well.
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6. fphhot+X3[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-08-08 11:06:38
>>kuu+82
I do. The direct call-out of a specific group of people for their position on the political spectrum is pretty much directly against what (I think) we're trying to do here. It's unnecessary, too. Could have just left it at "classic troll crowd".
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7. komali+p4[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-08-08 11:10:59
>>fphhot+X3
Eh. I read it less as "general people that happen to support the current administration" and more as "posters on t_d," which is a very different thing in my mind, and yea, does point to users that are inherently trollish/toxic.
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8. DanBC+t7[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-08-08 11:47:32
>>mschus+R
Do you have showdead set to on? Because there's a bunch of trolls who post to HN.
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9. s9w+ib[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-08-08 12:26:57
>>fphhot+X3
He's lumping Trump supporters together with Neo Nazis. Also hitting on all "inflammatory" topics at once. If someone on the "other side" would do that, the comment would be dead in seconds and the poster be punished by dang.
10. w-m+Db[view] [source] 2019-08-08 12:29:23
>>kuu+(OP)
As the article goes "The most admired arguments are made with data, but the origins, veracity, and malleability of those data tend to be ancillary concerns.", let's see what we can do here.

The latest HN comment dump I could find with a quick search was from May 2018 [1].

There were 237,646 comments in total that month, made by 36,358 unique users. 75% of users posted 5 or fewer comments, with a median of 2. The most prolific user wrote 798 comments, dang managed 6th place with 425 comments.

Even if the numbers doubled since then, there is no need to moderate millions of users, as only (well) tens of thousands of them are actively participating.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/datasets/comments/6v685o/complete_h...

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11. hooray+Gb[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-08-08 12:29:30
>>kuu+82
>troll crowd (no matter if 4chan/8chan/outright real Nazis/gamergate) or Trump supporters

this is why.

"If you voted for Trump, you're at best a troll but most likely a Nazi"

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12. danso+Uf[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-08-08 13:08:35
>>w-m+Db
The "official" dataset on BigQuery seems to have been last updated in October 2018:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19304326

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13. minima+lF[view] [source] [discussion] 2019-08-08 15:59:10
>>danso+Uf
That page was last updated October 2018, but the dataset itself (`bigquery-public-data.hacker_news.full`) is up to date and continually updating.
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