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> I almost feel like in the past there were more attempts at making this accessible to the end user, HyperCard, dbase etc, even just BASIC on your 8-bit machine.

Oh for sure, look at web: we transformed something simple and beautiful like html+css in a complete shit show.

Also, I don't feel like the new programming languages are easier then COBOL or BASIC, quite the contrary. We are making technology more complicated for no reason.

Or at least, at the time we had the very complicated stuff and stuff that simplified complexity. Think about S and SPSS.

Now we have complicated and very complicated. We are giving less creative possibilities to the end user: making them consumers, first of all.

Other example VB6.

>>kome+(OP)
I still miss VB6. It was a beautiful tool and easy to make GUIs with. I still can’t handle writing native GUIs without a good WYSIWYG editor. Delphi was cool, but Object Pascal?! Many people still swear by Delphi and it’s because when your code is UI focused Delphi makes that super easy.

>>kome+(OP)
IMO it's more a product of people expecting more from software. It's no longer enough to have something that works; it has to work and be pretty and user friendly.

>>bitexp+y2
Object Pascal vs Visual Basic? That's not even a competition, Object Pascal, of course. At least it was somewhat internally consistent.

>>pault+R4
I wonder who does that. All my experience with non-tech people tells me that they don't expect anything from software, just accept how it is, but they do get annoyed if it doesn't let them do their jobs quickly. Designing for the needs of normal people seems to go in the exact opposite direction to the current UX trends. When UX trends lead to slow, thin, shiny applications, users would be happier with dense and fast applications which minimize time spent in them.

>>vetina+rq
Agree. It was mostly nostalgia. That is just what I learned on. Object pascal was (is) a real language at least