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Its sad that everytime there is a post about Facebook the comments are extremely toxic and negative, and don't really even discuss the article itself. I would argue that 80% of all tech companies are doing close to 0 in making the world a 'better place'.

>>Xyik+(OP)
But few are actively making the world a worse place.

>>Xyik+(OP)
I wouldn't limit that 80% to the technology industry. Capitalism isn't optimized for human or societal welfare, it's optimized for resource extraction and the production of disposable goods.

>>Xyik+(OP)
Facebook's goal: Connect all the people

Google's goal: Organize all the information

Amazon's goal: Sell all the merchandise

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Taken at face value, all those companies were/are all trying to make the world a better place in the ways available to them. But when the externalities of those goals affect other people, they will become hated. Everyone has a different opinion of what 'better' means.

Since giant companies are most able to execute their vision of better, they will get most of the hate from people who have a different opinion of better.

Looks to me like its all just a battle for power: People with ideas but lacking implementation and execution, vs Companies with ideas, implementation, execution, AND momentum. Let's not forget all the different forms of government either...

>>Xyik+(OP)
I wouldn't call this toxic in the least. There is no name calling or childish behavior. I would just call it debating.

I have a coworker that is jealous of me and my boss because we go at it, but we both know it isn't personal. It is about making the right call on a project. We each think we are right and just trying to make our point

So I think this thread is just more intense but there is no ill will

>>Xyik+(OP)
Seems like the sad thing is that SV companies are actively making the world worse, not that reaction to this is negative.

>>Xyik+(OP)
I'll just leave this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook

>>chaosb+y4
I find it ironic that you agree with yourself that you are a good guy (which I am not saying you are not).

>>generi+d4
Facebook's goal: sell ads

Google's goal: sell more ads

Amazon's goal: Sell all the merchandise... and ads

FTFY

>>omgteh+dH
NYT/WaPo/WSJ: Make people click or view ads

All other news outlets: Make people click or view ads

Random-blog: Make people click or view ads

Free games companies: Make people click or view ads.

Internet businesses are a vicious circle of cash for ads. Ads are deeply embedded in the business model, but is advertising the goal of any of these companies?