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That is pretty terrible if the web is being split into "google knows who you are and approves of you visiting this website" vs not being tracked by google and being treated as a second class user.

>>ldarby+(OP)
I can relate to what the previous poster said. The worst thing is that this happens even for services I pay for. Some of them even do that for logging in.

>>ldarby+(OP)
Using google with a vpn (PIA) was a non-starter. I usually had to solve 3 or 4 puzzles before I could get to results. Privacy is important to me and it is just as important for them to deny me it.

>>partis+R5
Well said

>>ldarby+(OP)
They are not treating you as second class citizen, they are saying they haven't trust you to be human yet. Which is the whole point of capcha.

You want Google to not know about you. You want to be a stranger to them. And you are complaining that they don't trust stranger, which you want to be, as much as someone they know?

>>ldarby+(OP)
s/Google/China

>>joesb+OF
If it's about using only Google's services, then yes I agree, but the point is if lots of random sites all decide to use Google for captchas.

This has already happened with tor and Cloudflare, but at least that changed for the better recently (see https://www.zdnet.com/article/cloudflare-ends-captcha-challe...). In that case it was just one CDN using captchas to discriminate against a group of users, so that one change by the CDN could fix the issue. If too many random sites are independently blocking or slowing down anyone not logged into Google, then that'll turn the web into Google's web.

>>partis+R5
Interesting--I'm trying Nord right now and while Google has been fine, Amazon blocks me regardless of what I do and I ended up having to add some static routes for Craigslist.