zlacker

[parent] [thread] 3 comments
1. alacom+(OP)[view] [source] 2018-05-04 05:55:46
I'd assume that the policy is to stifle negative comments, especially in these days where criticize is frowned upon.
replies(1): >>mmt+QY
2. mmt+QY[view] [source] 2018-05-04 17:15:05
>>alacom+(OP)
If the policy setters can't possibly (by their own admission) determine the mere truth of comments, how could they determine something as subjective as negativity? [1]

After all, I personally already feel the chilling effect of the stated "no complaints" policy, as I mentioned originally, in that I now would not even post what I would have thought to be obviously helpful/constructive criticism such as a broken URL, since that could be construed as a complaint.

That gets back to my original request: If this is to be a post-only thread, with no commentary allowed, then just make it that. There would be no ambiguity and no pretending there might be room for discussion.

[1] That is, in the context of an otherwise civil, well thought-out comment that would otherwise be welcome elsewhere on the forum. I'm not advocating permitting the equivalent of corporate ad-hominem attacks here, and I'd even go so far as to say that discussions that are merely about a particular company (e.g. the ethics of working somewhere with a recent high-profile scandal) and not about the hiring process or working environment itself could be reasonably deemed off-topic.

replies(1): >>throwa+Ga1
◧◩
3. throwa+Ga1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-05-04 18:28:06
>>mmt+QY
In this era, you are only allowed to express positivity or neutrality. Instead of expressing negativity to any degree, you are expected to allow the other person to stay in their bubble, perhaps silently judge them, and move on permanently. Unsavory or unpleasant truths are not allowed. This will be enforced by the speech police.

If this becomes a job post-only thread, that implies that everybody posting a job is on equal footing, treats everybody equally, and does nothing wrong. And that is not true. I have personally gotten downright horrible, inappropriate questions and remarks during interviews at companies I found through this thread. A lot worse than you will find in my comment history. I too have experienced the chilling effect of this policy. Hiring managers have tried to gaslight me about bias or whatever else is going on. The censorship goes on right here in one of the best technical, non-political forums. And the inappropriate behavior continues, even though it should not.

replies(1): >>mmt+7F1
◧◩◪
4. mmt+7F1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-05-04 22:21:14
>>throwa+Ga1
I'm not sure I agree with the conclusion about the universality of censorship in this era, and I think you're arguing a position that's sufficiently extreme that it hurts your cause. To the extent that your cause is better information through freer speech, I agree with it.

One of the resources I rely on when considering even applying to a company is Glassdoor. Although I've experienced what seemed to me like similar censorship on one previous occasion with an interview review submission, they do not seem to be averse to negativity and have a history of protecting anonimity.

I'd argue that GD is a better forum for the critiques you're suggesting, accusatory of doing something "wrong", but I don't feel that strongly about it. What I'm most sad to see go are the "time waste" warning comments, since that can save someone a significant investment of effort doing further, even basic, research on GD, LinkedIn, Crunchbase, and elsewhere.

Lastly, I disagree that a post-only forum implies equality or absence of wrongdoing. It only implies they posted according to the rules (or haven't gotten caught breaking those rules yet). I'd go so far as to say that technically enforced silence says even less about the posters than "voluntary" (really chilling effect but which could seem voluntary to a naive reader) silence. That's why I asked for a technical solution instead of vague policy enforced with arbitrary moderator punishment of detachment and marking off-topic.

[go to top]