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1. belorn+(OP)[view] [source] 2018-02-15 16:30:09
> That is strong evidence that women are kept out of STEM

I might be boiling down your comment down to that one line, but it such a common line that I feel the need to point out some data. Here in Sweden about 12.5% of the population, men and women, work in a profession where the gender segregation is not higher than 150% dominance for a single gender.

The other 87.5% of the population all work in a profession which is seen as extremely gender segregated. We could describe it as if the wast majority of the population is keeping people who don't gender identify similar to their own out of the work market for which they themselves work in. Evidence that men are kept out of 87.5% of the professions that women work in, evidence that women are kept out of 87.5% of the professions that men work in. In a nation which pride itself on equality, we could claim that there is evidence that the wast majority of everyone here is actively being sexist in their professional life.

When looking at numbers to explain whats going on in society, I feel that the discussion often lack perspective. A ratio of 60:40 is actually within that small minority of 12.5% that is recognized as gender equal, and yet many feel that it too is unacceptable high level of gender segregation.

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2. rayine+P9[view] [source] 2018-02-15 17:39:10
>>belorn+(OP)
The US is not Sweden. In the US, you die or your kids starve if you don’t have enough money. So when you see a statistic that women have the altitude to go into a high paying career disproportionately to their actual representation, it’s harder to dismiss that just by saying “oh they must prefer to do something else.”

Beyond that, I’m not inclined to believe that Sweden really is more gender equal. It seems based on little more than assumption.

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3. ESRogs+uX[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-02-16 00:24:05
>>rayine+P9
> In the US, you die or your kids starve if you don’t have enough money.

We do have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supplemental_Nutrition_Assista...

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4. racer-+7q1[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-02-16 08:12:49
>>rayine+P9
Are things in the US are that bad? Maybe you should focus on how to help people with lower-paying jobs not starve, rather than pushing to make sure that the scarce "living-wage" jobs are going to women instead of men.
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