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1. YeGobl+(OP)[view] [source] 2018-02-15 13:17:47
Maybe he was fired not just because he made the company look bad, but also because he insulted about 30% of his co-workers, and on top of that kept trying to get his memo read by as many people as possible within Google.

Banging on about a controversial subject that can cause upset and disruption in a work environment. Does that sound very professional, or something that a smart person would do? And do you really want that kind of person in your team?

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2. modusp+Y3[view] [source] 2018-02-15 13:57:46
>>YeGobl+(OP)
> he insulted about 30% of his co-workers

He didn't insult anyone, although some amount of his coworkers did feel insulted.

The difference between these two things is significant.

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3. pc86+t5[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-02-15 14:11:18
>>modusp+Y3
I don't think he intended to insult anyone, but I also don't think it's unreasonable to believe that people could be insulted based on what he said. That's the gray area your binary distillation completely ignores. It's a little more nuanced than "he hurt my feelings!"
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4. modusp+D6[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-02-15 14:21:52
>>pc86+t5
I think what he wrote should be judged on the merits of what it said and not how others choose to misinterpret it.

Put differently: We are going down a dark road when someone simply being offended by pretty mainstream views mean those views are the problem.

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5. Slansi+dj[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-02-15 15:47:22
>>pc86+t5
That's not a gray area, it's the difference between intent and effect.
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6. pc86+pj[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-02-15 15:49:29
>>modusp+D6
I'm not saying that the views are a problem because people are offended. I'm saying that since people are offended, it's reasonable to take a step back and ask if the views are offensive, and if the intent was to offend. "He didn't mean to offend" doesn't automatically mean that whatever he said was okay. In this particular case I think it was, but there's nothing wrong with stepping back and asking if the underlying views are okay.
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7. weberc+3B[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-02-15 17:54:19
>>pc86+pj
Given that the media and all of Damore's other critics have to overtly lie about the contents of the memo in order to cast it as "offensive", I think it's abundantly clear that the memo itself is innocuous.
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8. fixerm+mM[view] [source] [discussion] 2018-02-15 19:24:22
>>modusp+Y3
Insult is in the eye of the victim, not the perpetrator. Always has been.
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