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I am a bit triggered.

This segregation stuff does not make sense to me, it almost feels like prison rules - keep genders/races away from each other because if they interact it will probably be violent.

I wondered what would happen if I created a community where the core culture was set by women, and the software and product decisions were also made by women

-> This also seems strange to me and counterproductive. If we build a society where any interaction happens without confrontations against the people that may be causing the issues, in this case "men", then how are we to make progress? Do men and women think differently about the merits of different software technologies or not?

Even when members have opposing views, they’ve given each other the benefit of the doubt and continue to talk productively.

-> Are you implying that men are incapable of this? Or that an environment where men and women interact is incapable of achieving this? Seems regressive...

>>bischo+(OP)
Are you trying to get at the fact that while this is supposed to be empowering to women, it necessarily implies that there are material differences between men and women in how they interact socially? Following this line do we conclude that it is morally inconsistent (with modern "totally equal" egalitarianism) or that it espouses a less popular "equal worth, but not equal treatment" ethic? Or maybe this is just a way to bootstrap communities with less maleness baked-in but that can eventually accept men once their cultural norms are established?

>>bischo+(OP)
>I am a bit triggered.

This is tangential to your point, but I'm pretty sure what you're referring to isn't being "triggered." It's, I don't know, disagreeing? It has a specific and important definition, and it seems to be getting thrown around in other scenarios, to the detriment of those with PTSD.

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what-are-ptsd-triggers

>>rev_bi+62
The word was properly being used. The definition of triggered is "anything, as an act or event, that serves as a stimulus and initiates or precipitates a reaction or series of reactions."[1] Definitions also change over time, and the colloquial definition of the word seems to be shifting to "Getting filled with hate after seeing, hearing or experiencing something you can't stand."[2]

[1] http://www.dictionary.com/browse/triggered

[2] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Triggered

>>TheAda+qc
This seems like a disingenuous decontextualization of what was said. Your link to dictionary.com says this:

>to initiate or precipitate (a chain of events, scientific reaction, psychological process, etc.)

"Psychological process," in this case, is what I was talking about, and what I think the original commenter was referring to. "Trigger warnings" aren't warning you that you might feel "anything that will cause a reaction," they're to help people suffering with PTSD avoid having a panic attack.

I agree that the colloquial definition is trending the way you describe, and I think it's irresponsible to just sit and watch it happen without speaking up in favor of the more specific psychological definition.

>>rev_bi+we
Hey, it's exhausting work dealing with these kinds of people and I see you doing it in this thread; thanks for it, and keep it up.

>>bischo+(OP)
Creating a community is not the same as replacing society. There will always be a multitude of different communities in a society.

>>Y_Y+U1
I think you are moving in the right direction - there is a strange and confusing double standard with gender diversity. Note that I am talking about averages here not individual women.

Women and men are different -> This justifies different outcomes in certain areas such as tech but promotes diversity due to the fact that they think different and could provide a much needed alternative viewpoint in a homogeneous environment. (this is mostly my perspective)

Women and men are the same -> Then there is a problem with the outcomes being different but the diversity argument goes away because men and women view and interact the same. If this is true we have to forcefully equalize all professions to 50-50. This also doesn't make sense in the context of leap - if men and women are the same why do we need environments that are for one gender or the other?

As far as bootstrapping less masculine communities I'm all for that but the execution of it might turn a bit bizarre when you start letting men in.