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Curious - how would gender affect promotion rates?

>>denzil+(OP)
Suppose men tend to work harder to get more promotions out of a fair system that rewards hard productive work. I mean, there's a reason men as a class tend to earn more money and die on the job more often than women - most of my model weight is on "men tend to be more willing to make tradeoffs in exchange for higher paychecks".

>>Thrust+N3
> men as a class tend to earn more money and die on the job more often than women

Are these correlated? My impression is that high-paying jobs tend to be low-physical-injury....

(Also, there are no shortage of barriers against women participating in high-mortality jobs - take the rules against women in combat for a particularly obvious example.)

>>geofft+T6
> Are these correlated? My impression is that high-paying jobs tend to be low-physical-injury....

Just intuitively, longer working hours (which may correlate with higher pay) and later average retirement age (which may correlate with higher paid jobs, especially with less physical demands), may contribute to greater probability of death from non-work causes, including age-related causes, happening while at work.

>>denzil+(OP)
Two reasons.

Women want children earlier (because menopause) and are more affected by them (because giving birth) than equally family-minded men. As a result, women are more motivated to prioritise having children/family.

In addition, men derive more advantage from more money/power than women, so they're more motivated to climb the corporate ladder (or take risks and fund companies) than women.

I'm generalising, obviously, so "on average" everywhere.

>>geofft+T6
Probably; for equivalently capable/educated people, dangerous jobs like construction, mining, oil rigs are paid much more than "office" jobs such as clerk, waiter, warehouse worker.

>>tomp+n7
> Women want children earlier (because menopause)

women need to have children earlier.

I don't see 70 year old men eagerly having kids all that often. Most people want to live to see their grandchildren.

> I'm generalising, obviously, so "on average" everywhere.

"I have black friends"

>>geofft+T6
>Are these correlated?

Yeah. For one small-scale example, the pay differential between the pizza delivery drivers and the in-store workers who make the pizzas. Roughly equivalent difficulty, drivers make $10-$15 an hour more due to tips and the risk of getting involved in a car accident or robbery. IIRC the gender ratio is more skewed towards men for delivery drivers than for in-store food service workers.

>>Thrust+ne
That's a good point (and I think I've also seen a very strong gender bias in taxi drivers, a little less strong in Lyft drivers, and weakest in bus drivers), but also, I think this sort of thing applies pretty firmly to relatively low-wage jobs. Certainly these aren't minimum-wage, but they're also not, like, mid-six-figures. (I think! Given the risks I'd be happy to know that these jobs do actually get to mid-six-figure wages.)

I suspect that white-collar senior management jobs contribute a lot more than pizza delivery jobs to the fact that men make more money than women in total. (But probably this is also true for median or first-decile wage?)