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1. jakoza+(OP)[view] [source] 2017-08-02 16:35:10
Isn't yet another case that startup is trying to fix systematic screwup of law in the USA?

In USA once you got criminal record, by default it stays for rest of life with you. Implications of that may be even more severe than actual punishment.

On the other hand in most of the European countries criminal records are limited and after X years they disappear and you can't legally discriminate based on that.

Some ppl will do something stupid at some point in their life and get a criminal record. Not giving them another chance is a major problem and actually can cause a lot of damage for everyone.

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2. RBBron+X1[view] [source] 2017-08-02 16:45:30
>>jakoza+(OP)
I don't know about being "yet another case..." This is something that has affected me, my family and many friends square on, and I'm compelled to try to improve things. There are more and more people like you who clearly "get it," so I have hope.
3. jaredh+J2[view] [source] 2017-08-02 16:49:32
>>jakoza+(OP)
>Isn't yet another case that startup is trying to fix systematic screwup of law in the USA?

Two thoughts:

1) "systematic screwup of law in the USA" is a pretty good description; another might be "massive market opportunity"

2) "startup trying to [take advantage of market inefficiencies created by] systematic screwup of law in the USA" is also a pretty good description of drug traffickers of all kinds. (I'm not passing judgment; just making an observation. The meta observation is that you can't cheat reality, so when law gets out of whack the gap between Ideal and Actual creates an inefficiency, which savvy entrepreneurs can profit by bridging).

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4. okreal+W3[view] [source] 2017-08-02 16:56:14
>>jakoza+(OP)
Even though this shouldn't be a problem (in that I agree that this is a policy issue in a lot of ways) I think that this could create more momentum for a fix by bringing this issue to light. They could potentially put themselves out of business (eventually, not any time soon) by de-stigmatizing a criminal record.
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5. Zyst+Z3[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-08-02 16:56:22
>>jaredh+J2
>systematic screwup of law in the USA" is a pretty good description; another might be "massive market opportunity"

The way Americans have the capacity to acknowledge something intrinsically fucked up about their society, and see it as a business opportunity regardless is something I both admire, and despair over.

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6. RBBron+65[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-08-02 17:03:09
>>okreal+W3
amen, my brother (or sister)
7. justin+o6[view] [source] 2017-08-02 17:08:06
>>jakoza+(OP)
> In USA once you got criminal record, by default it stays for rest of life with you.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

> On the other hand in most of the European countries criminal records are limited and after X years they disappear and you can't legally discriminate based on that.

This is something that varies state by state in the United States. In general, misdemeanors can be removed from your record faster than felonies and if they could they'd put a big red 'A' on your chest for sex crimes. Some places will clean your record automatically and some will requre you to contact the courts. But again, varies state by state, or even county by county.

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8. Wohlf+N9[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-08-02 17:25:30
>>jaredh+J2
On #2, you could say the same thing about all black markets.
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9. RonanT+Ml[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-08-02 18:41:24
>>Zyst+Z3
Glad I'm not the only one that feels that way..
10. yellow+Ks[view] [source] 2017-08-02 19:32:24
>>jakoza+(OP)
"Not giving them another chance is a major problem and actually can cause a lot of damage for everyone."

To build on this: disallowing them from becoming productive members of society means that they're that much more inclined to revert to a life of crime.

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