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1. jvzr+(OP)[view] [source] 2017-07-27 12:02:05
Exactly. I don't want websites to send notifications. And I dislike websites with Offline support: I always have to refresh twice to make sure the content I'm seeing came from a fresh source and not from cache.
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2. pluma+t2[view] [source] 2017-07-27 12:24:29
>>jvzr+(OP)
Then just deny push notifications when the website prompts for them (exactly once). And simply refresh manually to make sure the offline-available website is fresh.

It's not like you're being force-fed notifications against your will. And it's not like offline content hurts you. Any inconvenience offline support causes to you pales in comparison to how much people benefit who actually need to be able to access content on spotty connections.

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3. jvzr+f6[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-07-27 13:01:27
>>pluma+t2
Offline makes sense, you are right. I'm being privileged.

But for notifications, even the only-once* prompt is an annoyance we never had to deal with before. It's like the European Cookies Law: great in essence, but when every website bugs you about it then the problem has been exacerbated, not solved. I don't care about receiving notifications for a website I visit once in a blue moon, and I especially don't care to be even asked. There should be an action that triggers the prompt, like some kind of opt-in.

Edit: same with "app banners"

*it never is, because cross platform, multiple devices, multiple browsers. A fucking pain.

4. egeozc+z6[view] [source] 2017-07-27 13:04:08
>>jvzr+(OP)
Why is your complaint specific to websites with offline support? I always get stale data when I open Twitter app. I have to go to the top and refresh to get new tweets (and then they serve you with even more stale tweets but that's another problem).
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5. jvzr+R8[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-07-27 13:24:04
>>egeozc+z6
It's very specific and I realize I'm being privileged. I don't think my argument holds much ground.

My thing is: I visit a particular website to get the latest news on a topic but it's done with some kind of poorly coded implementation of offline cache. Despite my privileged, first-world, 4G-everywhere connection, it insists on loading stale data even though it looks exactly like a regular website. And this clashes with my vision of internet, which is, as others said, regular pages with hyperlinks, and a Refresh refreshes the page to get the newest version, even if it's stale. If things haven't changed, then they haven't and I instantly know nothing's new.

As I've said, pretty minor and I realize that Offline mode has much more pros than cons.

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