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1. Xeoncr+(OP)[view] [source] 2017-07-11 14:05:01
I would think that one company (Google, Amazon, Facebook, etc..) that cared enough would be better off SOLEY funding a project like this for themselves first - then others second.

$100 Million investment isn't a stretch for something from a large company.

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2. brians+s2[view] [source] 2017-07-11 14:22:24
>>Xeoncr+(OP)
They did. Apple laptops have no ME, and Chromebooks are safe (e.g., the source is open to Google!)
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3. clebio+X6[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-07-11 14:54:32
>>brians+s2
I was not aware of this. Any citations readily on-hand?
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4. qb45+oe[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-07-11 15:46:43
>>brians+s2
What makes you think that x86 MacBooks or Chromebooks could work without ME?

Also, according to libreboot FAQ, even Google was unable to get source for Intel firmware blobs.

https://libreboot.org/faq.html#intel-is-uncooperative

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5. cyphar+De[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-07-11 15:48:07
>>brians+s2
ChromiumOS is what Google bases ChromeOS on, and it's source is available (most notably, the U-Boot and device-specific firmware source is available for all Chromebooks). That's one of the reasons why Chromebooks are so well-supported by coreboot.
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6. wmf+k41[view] [source] 2017-07-11 21:44:08
>>Xeoncr+(OP)
The Chromebook Pixel was basically this. Even Google can't remove the ME but they don't need to since they understand actual security.
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7. gcb0+yT4[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-07-13 17:12:18
>>cyphar+De
very wrong.

from their site:

"For years, coreboot has been struggling against Intel. Intel has been shown to be extremely uncooperative in general. Many coreboot developers, and companies, have tried to get Intel to cooperate; namely, releasing source code for the firmware components. Even Google, which sells millions of chromebooks (coreboot preinstalled) have been unable to persuade them.

...

Basically, all Intel hardware from year 2010 and beyond will never be supported by libreboot...."

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