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1. Fzzr+(OP)[view] [source] 2017-05-02 17:33:59
iXsystems laid off the majority of the team that worked on FreeNAS 10 (Corral) and cancelled the project last month, the same day the CTO resigned.
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2. Sammi+L3[view] [source] 2017-05-02 17:54:11
>>Fzzr+(OP)
Seriously. What went wrong? FreeNAS 10 looked awesome.

And on their blog they're boasting about growth: https://www.ixsystems.com/blog/ixsystems-sees-record-growth-...

EDIT: I see that they make a reddit ama to answer these questions: https://www.reddit.com/r/freenas/comments/65dmq7/hi_kris_bre...

This one in particular was interesting: https://www.reddit.com/r/freenas/comments/65dmq7/hi_kris_bre...

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3. dolphi+p4[view] [source] 2017-05-02 17:57:55
>>Fzzr+(OP)
Do you have a source?
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4. Fzzr+aq[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-05-02 20:15:07
>>dolphi+p4
CTO Resignation (note last day is 4/7): https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/moving-on-from-...

Cancellation announcement (fluffed as "relegated to technology preview): https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/important-annou...

Bug tracker, for illustration. It used to have more than a dozen developers on it: https://bugs.freenas.org/projects/freenas-10

Former developer tweet about layoffs (note date of tweet is 4/7): https://twitter.com/JoshuaRule/status/850460463720800256

And all over r/freenas. The total number laid off seems to be around eight of maybe twelve. One way to check that is to compare internet archive versions of the bug tracker and compare it to developers who no longer commit to any FreeNAS projects as of last month (edit: and who are not on the other FreeNAS bug tracker). The remainder are redirected back to 9.x (soon to be 11).

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5. Fzzr+sy[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-05-02 21:13:18
>>Sammi+L3
There were lots of reasons why Corral failed, including poor choices of technology (MontageJS, p9fs), unfortunate engineering decisions (tons of unmaintainable wheel-reinvention, tons of backward-compatibility breakage), and poor planning (eg. documentation and localization ignored from the beginning, constant design changes). Jordan (departed CTO) would seem to have fallen on his sword and left, and the remaining executives (including returning CTO [and founder] Matt Olander) made the ruthless but understandable decision to cut their losses. They're re-focusing on the existing stable project with the intention of bringing in the the coolest features of Corral incrementally rather than all at once. Kris Moore has a solid record with PC-BSD/TrueOS and has been managing FreeNAS 9.x for some time. Only time will tell if FreeNAS 11 will live up to what 10 could have been.

The growth refers to the enterprise version of the current (9.x) product line, which is legitimately growing. It's just that 2+ years of engineering effort on the successor was thrown out two weeks after that PR.

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6. justin+CU[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-05-03 00:26:10
>>Fzzr+aq
Damn, didn't know about that at all. :(
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7. Religi+XX[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-05-03 01:12:10
>>Fzzr+sy
Matt and his team at iX rescued FreeNAS once, no doubt his leadership will prevail (with some blood and sweat).
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8. Fzzr+S11[view] [source] [discussion] 2017-05-03 02:13:55
>>Religi+XX
That was under Josh Paetzel, who also left (unrelated to the Corral stuff). Most of that same team is still there, though.
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