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1. DasIch+(OP)[view] [source] 2016-05-02 00:30:15
There may not be a no human right to cheap rent in Mitte but most voters probably agree that even people with low incomes should be able to live in the city. Also I think a good argument can be made that rent-seeking behavior by property owners can potentially be in conflict with the constitution.

Flughafen Tempelhof can't be developed, voters have voted directly against it. That law could be changed but to do so would arguably be undemocratic and it would certainly be political suicide for the forseeable future. This also brings up the important point of city planning, cities are more than just housing. You need to take that into consideration.

Also indeed increasing supply is about long-term thinking. You can't increase supply very fast and in this instance you can't increase it fast enough. This means you need something to slow down price increases in the short-term which measures like the Mietpreisbremse or banning AirBnB do.

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2. mamon+Ul[view] [source] 2016-05-02 08:12:36
>>DasIch+(OP)
>> voters probably agree that even people with low incomes should be able to live in the city

Why exactly should they? I mean, I don't want to forcibly remove them, but there are many cities in Germany other than Berlin.

If one city is getting richer and richer, then the average price of an apartment goes up. More rich people start comming, because they see oportinity to do business there. At the same time poor people have a choice of moving to smaller, more affordable cities.

The biggest pitfall of a mankind is that we cannot grasp that the world is constantly changing. Life itself is a process of constant change. Just because your parents lived in Berlin and you were born in Berlin does not imply that things have to stay this way forever.

Trying to stop the flow of time and inevitable change is what makes us miserable.

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3. rvense+8v[view] [source] [discussion] 2016-05-02 11:03:05
>>mamon+Ul
Your plan is marvellous! It would also have the very positive side effect that I'd only have to interact with other rich people who understand me better. For instance I think I'd be able to make much better smalltalk with the waitress selling me coffee in the morning if she was also rich. And the poor people in the poor people cities would probably also prefer to only mix with their own kind.

Why hasn't anyone thought of this before!

4. mafrib+Rx1[view] [source] 2016-05-02 19:06:01
>>DasIch+(OP)

   people with low incomes should be
   able to live in the city.
Steglitz, Spandau, Koepenick, Lichtenrade are all in the city. And all have excellent public transport that gets you to Mitte, Prenzlauer Berg etc in a few minutes. People should live so as to minimise commuting. Since most of those in the centre tend to be either well-paid or tourists, it's fine that they also form the majority of those who live there (either long-term or transient).
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