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1. astaza+(OP)[view] [source] 2016-01-10 19:01:47
The 'app store' is the adulterated form of the Linux package repository. No shock that when you remove community management, accountability, openness, verifiability and add in monetization things get shittier.
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2. nailer+X[view] [source] 2016-01-10 19:15:10
>>astaza+(OP)
I think that's how app stores began - do you remember 'Click N Run' in 2002? http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q41/mp3tunes/cnr-linspire...
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3. gue5t+92[view] [source] 2016-01-10 19:28:43
>>astaza+(OP)
Exactly. I can understand uninformed consumers accepting this kind of bullshit because they don't realize it could be so much better. But it boggles my mind that people who have used a real package manager will put up with the exploitative, arbitrary, restrictive app store nonsense and put down real money for copies of software.

So much work in the phone ecosystem goes into trying to tame the beast of closed-source, untrusted, adversarial code trying to show ads, track the user, sell them in-app purchases, and so on. These are all unnecessary complications that a fully open-source phone ecosystem (with no app store, but a real open software ecosystem like Linux) would solve.

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4. SixSig+R2[view] [source] [discussion] 2016-01-10 19:38:08
>>nailer+X
The NeXT Computer and the NeXTSTEP operating system was the platform used for creating the first App Store, originally demonstrated to Steve Jobs in 1993.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT

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5. nailer+zm[view] [source] [discussion] 2016-01-11 00:35:43
>>SixSig+R2
Do you have any screenshots? Your comment originally said NeXT created bundles, which is very different from an online store for software.
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6. SixSig+kM[view] [source] [discussion] 2016-01-11 08:37:05
>>nailer+zm
Yes, the bundle thing is also true. I found the bit about app stores while I was trying to find a year.

No screenshots. I just remembered that the bundle thing was something I was excited about wrt Next at the time. And booting from Cdrom, and display postscript. I wanted one so badly but by the time I had money they were very obsolete.

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7. nailer+C11[view] [source] [discussion] 2016-01-11 13:10:50
>>SixSig+kM
There's no reference though. It's just:

> creating the first App Store which was originally demonstrated to Steve Jobs in 1993

without any footnotes. Would have loved to actually read something on the topic.

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8. SixSig+Pk1[view] [source] [discussion] 2016-01-11 17:25:29
>>nailer+C11
I only know really know about it from memory and even then it's from reading PC-World, not direct experience.

The Bundle was one of those great ideas for users that got kicked in the nuts by Copy Protection methods until signing and activation was bult into the OS proper.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundle_%28OS_X%29

Even on early Windows all you had to do was xcopy a directory to share it with friends. My Quake2 folder still follows me from machine to machine.

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9. nailer+EI2[view] [source] [discussion] 2016-01-12 12:49:38
>>SixSig+Pk1
Yeah, I get what you're saying about bundles, and I think they're a great idea, I just want to see if you have anything about what you said re: a place to buy bundles online.
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