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1. conrad+(OP)[view] [source] 2015-11-14 01:40:50
Actually, this is not the first time that France has declared a state of emergency.

It was declared in 1984 and 2005. And it was declared in Algeria in the 1950s and 1960s.

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2. asasas+d[view] [source] 2015-11-14 01:46:27
>>conrad+(OP)
The OP meant that this is the first time since WWII that France has closed its borders, which is true.

For those curious about 2005 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_French_riots#State_of_eme...

Edit: I was wrong, the President said the borders were closed, but then clarified that they weren't.

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3. janus2+I[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-11-14 01:53:32
>>asasas+d
The borders are not closed, it's just a restoration of border controls.
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4. RockyM+01[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-11-14 01:56:41
>>asasas+d
I don't think they closed their borders. They invoked the Schengen protocol for re-instituting border controls. Under Schengen driving from France to Italy or Germany is like driving from Texas to Louisiana. But there is a clause allowing re-instituting border controls under certain conditions, including a national security emergency.

[edit: source France24; http://mashable.com/2015/11/13/france-border-airlines-flight... . Hollande did refer to 'fermeture des frontières' which is confusing https://twitter.com/Elysee/status/665314066106159104 ]

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5. 001sky+11[view] [source] 2015-11-14 01:56:44
>>conrad+(OP)
This is being pedantic, but it's the first enforced curfew since WWII...I think we can cut the GP a break, since the all this stuff is part of the state of emergency/emergency measures.

Peace to all.

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6. igreke+X2[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-11-14 02:25:03
>>janus2+I
Border controls were already restored in preparation for the Paris conference.
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7. 001sky+45[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-11-14 03:11:29
>>RockyM+01
"Live updates: At least 100 dead, multiple sites attacked, France's borders closed"

--LA Times Headline

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8. cm2187+Vg[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-11-14 08:41:26
>>001sky+11
Nope. There were another one about 10 years ago when giant riots happened in many suburbs of Paris. And both these attacks and the riots have the same root cause: a lack of integration of France's african immigration.
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9. tajen+hh[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-11-14 08:50:08
>>001sky+45
This was corrected by the President's office, clarifying "closing the borders" as "restoring border controls". As a side note, during Shengen, border police still exists but is allowed to place controls wherever they want. It's not clear to my why controls at the borders is more efficient than intense, random in-land controls.
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