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1. aNoob7+(OP)[view] [source] 2015-10-19 01:26:33
Except the USA, of course. :)
replies(2): >>tonyar+f >>smprk+G1
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2. tonyar+f[view] [source] 2015-10-19 01:28:56
>>aNoob7+(OP)
Yeah, I suspect this wouldn't show up if Facebook received an NSL...
replies(2): >>Myrmor+N >>TeMPOr+41
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3. Myrmor+N[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-10-19 01:41:21
>>tonyar+f
Oh? I was hoping that that was one intended use for this. Would such an alert violate the typical terms of an "NSL"?
replies(1): >>thegeo+B1
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4. TeMPOr+41[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-10-19 01:48:31
>>tonyar+f
I think this alert is sent when they can sense you're being surveilled before they themselves get a NSL. "Targeted by state actor" != "obeyed lawful request for data".
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5. thegeo+B1[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-10-19 01:58:18
>>Myrmor+N
From Wikipedia:

NSLs typically contain a nondisclosure requirement, frequently called a ''gag order,'' preventing the recipient of an NSL from disclosing that the FBI had requested the information.

...however:

The nondisclosure order must be authorized by the Director of the FBI, and only after he or she certifies "that otherwise there may result a danger to the national security of the United States, interference with a criminal, counterterrorism, or counterintelligence investigation, interference with diplomatic relations, or danger to the life or physical safety of any person.

So it seems this is regulated to some degree, though it is unclear what counts as "interference with a criminal, counterterrorism, or counterintelligence investigation".

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6. smprk+G1[view] [source] 2015-10-19 02:00:44
>>aNoob7+(OP)
It is a welcome move if facebook wants to be a true social platform, and increase its acceptance within me than rejection. But this particular change must come with a degree of transparency, which is required IMO to address your humorous but serious comment, and address larger value of this move.

    - How would facebook detect nation-state attacks?
    - How do we make the policy around it participative and open?
    - Etc.
replies(1): >>TeMPOr+K3
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7. TeMPOr+K3[view] [source] [discussion] 2015-10-19 02:48:14
>>smprk+G1
> - How would facebook detect nation-state attacks?

"We do this by a combination of traffic monitoring, incident tracking and utilizing cellular network infrastructure to notify the engineers responsible for sending the warning in time between the NSL reaching front desk and CEO becoming aware of its content."

> - How do we make the policy around it participative and open?

"Everyone is free to receive a warning about being targeted by a state or state-sponsored actor, regardless of race, religion, gender, income and sexual preferences of said actor."

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