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1. javert+s1[view] [source] 2015-05-29 20:26:45
>>uptown+(OP)
Gross miscarriage of justice. People have a right to buy drugs.

Every single government actor involved in this case is far more guilty than Ross and, frankly, they are the ones that deserve prison.

Yes, Ross should have realized you can't massively break the law and get away with it. He made a big mistake.

But the mistake he made was assuming that other people were more benevolent than they really are.

This young man viewed the world with a child-like, rosy-eyed perspective, and for that, he gets crushed by the boot of government brutality.

Disclaimer: I have no involvement with any dark nets or online drug trade.

edit: I don't know if he hired hitmen and if he did, I suspect it was in his own defense.

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2. wvenab+g2[view] [source] 2015-05-29 20:31:13
>>javert+s1
> People have a right to buy drugs.

Actually they don't, which is kind of the point.

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3. civili+c3[view] [source] 2015-05-29 20:36:19
>>wvenab+g2
We're discussing rights given to us by the Laws of Nature, as understood by our founding fathers, not the meager rights dolled out by the federal government.
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4. javert+jb[view] [source] 2015-05-29 21:46:35
>>civili+c3
Speaking as someone who's on your side in this debate...

Rights are what you get if a bunch of rational, self-interested people get together and say, "What ought we be allowed to do without interference?"

There is a single, correct, rational answer to that: you ought to be allowed to do anything that doesn't initiate force against someone else. All rights are a function of that single fundamental observation.

Every rational, fully self-interested person (who has studied the topic a lot) will agree on this.

So that's where rights come from... they are a human construct, but there's also a single, objectively correct answer.

So they don't come from "Laws of Nature" or the Founding Fathers.

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