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>>dmpetr+(OP)
This feels like the time I was a Mercurial user before I moved to Git.

Everyone was using git for reasons to me that seemed bandwagon-y, when Mercurial just had such a better UX and mental model to me.

Now, everyone is writing agent `exec`s in Python, when I think TypeScript/JS is far better suited for the job (it was always fast + secure, not to mention more reliable and information dense b/c of typing).

But I think I'm gonna lose this one too.

>>avaer+Mm
Having been doing Python for over a decade and JavaScript. I would pick Python any day of the week over JavaScript. JavaScript is beautiful, and also the most horrific programming language all at once. It still feels incomplete, there's too many oddities I've run into over the years, like checking for null, empty, undefined values is inconsistent all around because different libraries behave differently.

>>gianca+oG
TBF is the Python ecosystem any different? None and dict everywhere, requirements.txt without pinned versions... I'm not complaining either, as I wouldn't expect a unified typed experience in ecosystems where multiple competing type checkers and package managers have been introduced gradually. How could any library from the python3.4 era foresee dataclasses or the typing module?

Such changes take time, and I favor an "evolution trumps revolution"-approach for such features. The JS/TS ecosystem has the advantage here, as it has already been going through its roughest time since es2015. In hindsight, it was a very healthy choice and the type system with TS is something to be left desired in many programming languages.

If it weren't for its rich standard library and uv, I would still clearly favor TS and a runtime like bun or deno. Python still suffers from spread out global state and some multi-paradigm approach when it comes to concurrency (if concurrency has even been considered by the library author). Python being the first programming language for many scientists shows its toll too: rich libraries of dubious quality in various domains. Whereas JS' origins in browser scripting contributed to the convention to treat global state as something to be frowned upon.

I wish both systems would have good object schema validation build into the standard library. Python has the upper hand here with dataclasses, but it still follows some "take it or throw"-approach, rather than to support customization for validations.

>>whilen+e41
It was better because it had no silent errors, like 1+”1”. Far from perfect, the fact it raised exceptions and enforced the philosophy of “don’t ask for permission but forgiveness” makes the difference.

IMHO It’s irrelevant it has a slightly better typesystem and runtime but that’s totally irrelevant nowadays.

With AI doing mostly everything we should forget these past riddles. Now we all should be looking towards fail-safe systems, formal verification and domain modeling.

>>nudpie+381
> With AI doing mostly everything we should forget these past riddles.

How I finally was able to make a large Rust project without having to sacrifice my free time to really fully understand Rust. I have read through the Rust book several times but I never have time to fully “practice” Rust, I was able to say screw it and built my own Rust software using Claude Code.

>>gianca+Wh2
And also with Ada which would be even safer. And the same it is for me... we all got trained in skills are slowly going to fade away.