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1. eikenb+ka[view] [source] 2026-02-02 18:33:03
>>cf100c+(OP)
SysV init was the overengineered cousin to BSD init and I never liked it. Easily my least favorite of all init systems I've worked with over the last 30 years. On the flip side, daemontools or maybe runit were my favorites. Lots of good options for init/supervision tooling over the years and SysV was not among them.
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2. kmeist+PR1[view] [source] 2026-02-03 03:17:49
>>eikenb+ka
It's always a little amusing when the Open Source Tea Party bemoans the lack of "the UNIX way" and someone else with actual historical experience (and not misguided nostalgia) brings perspective.

On a related note, X11 was never good and there's a whole chapter in the UNIX-HATERS Handbook explaining why.

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3. its_ma+oT4[view] [source] 2026-02-03 21:36:28
>>kmeist+PR1
It was never good? Weird. Works fine for me.

When will Wayland earn the label "good"? I don't think it currently qualifies.

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4. kmeist+5F7[view] [source] 2026-02-04 16:58:25
>>its_ma+oT4
It works fine for you because...

1. You're using X11 with hardware that is fantastically newer than anything available at the time the UNIX-HATERS Handbook was written.

2. Every graphics vendor that still supports X11 is shipping workarounds for bugs in Xorg.

I used to have a citation for that second one but it went away when Hector Martin dropped off the face of the Internet.

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