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1. Button+C4[view] [source] 2026-02-02 22:07:23
>>g-mork+(OP)
SpaceX is too big to fail. It's important for national security.

I wonder if Elon wants to tangle all his businesses into SpaceX so they are all kept afloat by SpaceX's importance.

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2. protas+J7[view] [source] 2026-02-02 22:18:52
>>Button+C4
Elon can't legally financially entangle Tesla to SpaceX due to Tesla being a public company, so his hands are tied.

Tesla is clearly benefiting from protectionism and its sales would collapse if BYD were allowed to openly sell in the US. Most people just want affordable, maintainable and reliable cars.

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3. rafael+Eq1[view] [source] 2026-02-03 07:22:29
>>protas+J7
> Tesla is clearly benefiting from protectionism and its sales would collapse if BYD were allowed to openly sell in the US

So would most of EU car makers in Europe. China is not playing by the same rules and everyone with car manufacturing domestically is slamming them with tariffs.

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4. mort96+bs1[view] [source] 2026-02-03 07:37:01
>>rafael+Eq1
How isn't China playing by the same rules? Every country subsidises and supports industry it thinks is important, surely nothing would stop Germany from investing into Volkswagen and BMW or the US from investing into Ford the same way China invests into BYD?
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5. rafael+WP1[view] [source] 2026-02-03 10:40:49
>>mort96+bs1
By that logic tariffs are state subsidies - so what are we even talking about here ?
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6. mort96+ke2[view] [source] 2026-02-03 13:31:47
>>rafael+WP1
Hm, how are tariffs state subsidies? They're a tax on some products to give other products a competitive edge, but that feels different from a subsidy?

And what does that have to do with China playing by different rules than the west?

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