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1. smartm+K7[view] [source] 2026-02-02 18:22:20
>>cf100c+(OP)
It's a pity. It's also a step back from valuing the Unix philosophy, which has its merits, especially for those with a "learning the system from scratch" mindset. Sorry, but I have no sympathy for systemd.
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2. tapoxi+dc[view] [source] 2026-02-02 18:43:06
>>smartm+K7
I don't have a dog in this fight but I find it funny that the anti-systemd crowd hates it because it doesn't "follow the Unix philosophy", but they tend to also hate Wayland which does and moves away from a clunky monolith (Xorg)
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3. LeFant+LN1[view] [source] 2026-02-03 02:42:10
>>tapoxi+dc
This one bothers me too.

Systemd and Xorg are very similar in many ways. I do not know how you hate Systemd and love Xorg unless your real problem is just change.

And, while I like Wayland, I think that liking the Wayland architecture should have you disliking Systemd. But that is just me.

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4. ahartm+9Z1[view] [source] 2026-02-03 04:23:39
>>LeFant+LN1
I'm in the same boat. Systemd is an unpricipled mess and ships some quite shoddy replacements for pre-existing components. Wayland is super clean, it just takes for-everrr to add the features that users (and developers) expect. It could seriously have been done over 10 years ago not by heroic development effort, but by not being pathologically obstructive about features.

The two projects are complete opposites except in one way, they replace older stuff.

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