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1. jchall+(OP)[view] [source] 2026-01-13 16:53:32
Scott Adams died today. I want to acknowledge something complicated.

He always felt culturally like family to me. His peaks—the biting humor about corporate absurdity, the writing on systems thinking and compounding habits, the clarity about the gap between what organizations say and what they do—unquestionably made me healthier, happier, and wealthier. If you worked in tech in the 90s and 2000s, Dilbert was a shared language for everything broken about corporate life.

His views, always unapologetic, became more strident over time and pushed everyone away. That also felt like family.

You don’t choose family, and you don’t get to edit out the parts that shaped you before you understood what was happening. The racism and the provocations were always there, maybe, just quieter. The 2023 comments that ended Dilbert’s newspaper run were unambiguous.

For Scott, like family, I’m a better person for the contribution. I hope I can represent the good things: the humor, the clarity of thought, the compounding good habits with health and money. I can avoid the ugliness—the racism, the grievance, the need to be right at any cost.

Taking inventory is harder than eulogizing or denouncing. But it’s more honest.

2. lisper+eX[view] [source] 2026-01-13 20:21:07
>>jchall+(OP)
> The racism and the provocations were always there

Were they? Can you cite an example? Because I also grew up with Dilbert, and I was never aware of it.

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3. rchaud+U51[view] [source] 2026-01-13 20:57:16
>>lisper+eX
It's in Chapter 1 of his autobiography. He used to work at a bank in the 80s, and was turned down for a managerial or executive position (can't remember) which went to an Asian candidate. He was certain it was due to DEI (in the 80s!) and quit the corporate world to become a cartoonist.

The strip that got him dropped in 2022 featured a black character (first in the history of the cartoon) who "identifies as white".

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4. sanity+O71[view] [source] 2026-01-13 21:04:57
>>rchaud+U51
> He was certain it was due to DEI

He was told explicitly by his boss that they weren't promoting white men.

> The strip that got him dropped in 2022 featured a black character (first in the history of the cartoon) who "identifies as white".

That wasn't what got him dropped, he did an interview with Chris Cuomo where he explained what actually happened and why: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_bv1jfYYu4

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5. bahmbo+qh1[view] [source] 2026-01-13 21:40:44
>>sanity+O71
> He was told explicitly by his boss that they weren't promoting white men.

This is what he claims but I find it very difficult to believe. Why would management even say such a thing and expose themselves to a lawsuit? Let alone "not promoting white men". It's preposterous.

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6. kcplat+Np1[view] [source] 2026-01-13 22:17:47
>>bahmbo+qh1
> Why would management even say such a thing and expose themselves to a lawsuit?

The 1980s were not the 2020s. I can probably drop a half dozen working anecdotes from that time that would blow your mind…on all sorts of things.

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7. bahmbo+nr1[view] [source] 2026-01-13 22:24:23
>>kcplat+Np1
I agree. I was there. There was no DEI and “not promoting white men” was not a thing.
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8. kcplat+JH1[view] [source] 2026-01-13 23:47:27
>>bahmbo+nr1
Well, I can’t speak to that with enough confidence to say it was “not a thing”, but I never saw that sort of thing in the eighties. Although, it would not necessarily be unusual for a manager to be that blunt and open at that time without fear of lawsuits, so that part tracks as possibly true for me if there was some sort of effort within his company.

However, latter half of the 90s I was in a high enough position in a couple of organizations to experience conversation in management meetings that the hiring of diverse candidates as a preference if possible was often discussed. Although in hindsight you would probably consider it more tokenism than a concerted effort at diversity.

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9. busyan+ne2[view] [source] 2026-01-14 04:06:47
>>kcplat+JH1
Just to throw my anecdote in ... In the 1980s, I met a handful of white people (on different occasions) who each complained that they needed a near perfect score on the State Police entrance exam whereas "other" people could be accepted with far lower scores.

So, these types of policies did exist at the time. But I'm sure there was a continuum of policies in effect at different institutions in that era.

Of course, to me it's perfectly plausible that Adams' boss told him they weren't promoting white men, but largely because I could see the supervisor lying to Adams simply for the purpose of not looking like the bad guy. ("Hey, I wanted to promote you, but you know how the Dems keep meddling in corporate affairs, right? My hands were tied.")

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10. mock-p+uO3[view] [source] 2026-01-14 16:41:44
>>busyan+ne2
> a handful of white people (on different occasions) who each complained that they needed a near perfect score on the State Police entrance exam whereas "other" people could be accepted with far lower score

Were these people trustworthy? Because that sounds exactly like the kind of urban legend that people like to parrot, or like a pretty standard way to cope with not getting hired. I heard a bit of very similar chatter about college admissions back in the day. “Maybe I would have had a shot if I was Asian.” Etc.

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11. kcplat+lH5[view] [source] 2026-01-14 23:29:11
>>mock-p+uO3
> I heard a bit of very similar chatter about college admissions back in the day. “Maybe I would have had a shot if I was Asian.” Etc.

I’m not sure you can really say this was an urban legend, as there was a number of court cases regarding it (At least one from that far back) and a recent SCOTUS (2023) ruling specifically ending the capability of colleges to utilize affirmative action considerations for admissions. Not to say that every person who claimed such a thing was accurate, but it was happening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Students_for_Fair_Admissions_v...

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