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1. ndsipa+GY1[view] [source] 2026-01-08 10:07:03
>>fzeror+(OP)
At what point do U.S. citizens realise that ICE is in fact a terrorist organisation?
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2. doom2+YG2[view] [source] 2026-01-08 15:21:37
>>ndsipa+GY1
Not a lawyer, but I've been thinking a lot about under which conditions stand your ground laws might apply to people defending themselves against law enforcement officers. The power balance is still such that most people won't shoot at a police (or ICE) officer, so I don't think it's likely to happen, but there is already legal precedent[1] regarding it.

[1] https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2020/05/when-stand-your-ground-...

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3. ndsipa+AU2[view] [source] 2026-01-08 16:25:06
>>doom2+YG2
As I understand it, ICE agents have no powers to stop or arrest U.S. citizens, so it does seem odd how much they are allowed to hurt and kill.
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4. ryandr+p93[view] [source] 2026-01-08 17:32:14
>>ndsipa+AU2
If nobody is enforcing the law, then they have the power to do whatever the administration is allowing them to do, and at this point, that seems to include everything up to and including murder.
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5. FireBe+VX3[view] [source] 2026-01-08 21:45:44
>>ryandr+p93
Yeah, though who would enforce those laws? At this point you have the head of DHS stating at press conferences that she's directing ICE to disregard federal court rulings.
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