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>>atestu+(OP)
Of note: the US's per capita consumption of meat has increased by more than 100 pounds over the last century[1]. We now consume an immense amount of meat per person in this country. That increase is disproportionately in poultry, but we also consume more beef[2].

A demand for the average American to eat more meat would have to explain, as a baseline, why our already positive trend in meat consumption isn't yielding positive outcomes. There are potential explanations (you could argue increased processing offsets the purported benefits, for example), but those are left unstated by the website.

[1]: https://www.agweb.com/opinion/drivers-u-s-capita-meat-consum...

[2]: https://ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/chart-detai...

>>woodru+fO
I bet the number of vegans and vegetarians in the US are also at their highest (and growing).

>>giveme+qU
That's probably true, but I don't think vegans and vegetarians as a demographic overlap closely with demographics that tend to have heart disease.

(Note that I am neither a vegetarian nor a vegan.)

>>woodru+wV
There may be some correlation but causality is unclear. India has a lot of vegetarians and also a high incidence of heart disease.

>>nradov+5a1
That might have something more to do with almost one in four people in India being a tobacco user[1]. CDC suggests that one in four CVD deaths (in the US) is caused by tobacco use[2].

[1]: https://globalactiontoendsmoking.org/research/tobacco-around...

[2]: https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/about/cigarettes-and-cardiovascu...

>>woodru+Hu1
It has more to do with people who are on farming diets but no longer farm.

People in India smoked just as much when they weren't living such sedentary lifestyles.

>>giveme+Jx1
I don't understand the claim: is it that farming diets are unhealthy, or something else? I'd expect subsistence lifestyles to have higher all-round mortality, but probably not CVD specifically.

> People in India smoked just as much when they weren't living such sedentary lifestyles.

I suspect they also lived shorter lives for the aforementioned all-round mortality reasons.

>>woodru+EK1
Farming diets are rich in calories. Great for farmers. Not so great for desk jockeys.

>>giveme+wb2
I think most farming diets in India are closer to subsistence diets, or at least historically have been.

(If you have resources that show otherwise, that would be interesting. But smoking really does seem like the obvious historical outlying factor for heart disease in India, with calorie-dense diets playing catch up as the country has become wealthier.)