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>>atestu+(OP)
Of note: the US's per capita consumption of meat has increased by more than 100 pounds over the last century[1]. We now consume an immense amount of meat per person in this country. That increase is disproportionately in poultry, but we also consume more beef[2].

A demand for the average American to eat more meat would have to explain, as a baseline, why our already positive trend in meat consumption isn't yielding positive outcomes. There are potential explanations (you could argue increased processing offsets the purported benefits, for example), but those are left unstated by the website.

[1]: https://www.agweb.com/opinion/drivers-u-s-capita-meat-consum...

[2]: https://ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/chart-detai...

>>woodru+fO
I'm a weightlifter and as part of my training, I eat pretty close to about a pound of meat a day during bulk, usually about 12-14oz. This is because I need to eat about 200g of protein a day. I supplement it with protein shakes.

I find that to be a challenging amount of meat. It's a lot! And to find out that's average???

Americans eat way too much meat. Cheese, too.

>>parl_m+rP
I am not a weightlifter, I am an amateur powerlifter, and I do pretty intense resistance training for my age (54yo) and my weight (112kg) and I eat about 800g to 1kg a day of meat - duck, pork or beef. Even if I eat 1kg Wagyu beef, it would give me about 3000 calories, slightly less than 3500 calories I need to keep my muscle mass. I would happily eat even more meat but circumstances prevents me to do so.

I used to drink protein shakes, but now I am actively against these. Artificial sweeteners provoke insulin release [1] [2] that leads to type-II diabetes.

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2887503/

[2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S10568...

>>thesz+xd1
you can get protein powder that doesn't contain artificial sweeteners. You can get protein powder that doesn't contain any sweetener. You can even buy pure protein powder without any additives at all.

>>b00ty4+Bg1
Humans are top predators. We eat more meat of various kind than any other predators, including other predators like bears.

Lions can't eat ducks or chickens. We can and do.

Why should I, as a top predator, drink a protein powder instead eating a meat of a big mammal?

>>thesz+8m1
> Lions can't eat ducks or chickens. We can and do.

As in they can't catch them? Or they can't survive on a diet of them? I'd be surprised if it was the latter.

>>tricer+dr1
The cannot catch them so they are not adapted to them.

Our cat does not eat lamb as he is not adapted to lamb, but he does eat a lot of duck purring to the skies.

>>thesz+yw1
Do you have a source for lions not being able to subsist on a diet of poultry?

>>tricer+ky1
Lions can subsist on a diet of poultry, but suboptimally.

If we assume that lions' best diet is beef [1], then chicken [2] would be less optimal for them.

[1] https://tools.myfooddata.com/protein-calculator/171797/100g/...

[2] https://tools.myfooddata.com/protein-calculator/171140/wt9/1

Look at the amino acid ratios. Leucine to valine ratio is about 0.66 for chicken and 0.8 for beef. This means that protein synthesis will be bound by valine in case of chicken and what is not used in the protein synthesis will be converted to glucose and then stored as fat. Chicken will be about 80% (0.66/0.8) as nutritious as beef, judging just by two essential amino acids ratio.

>>thesz+Tk2
What is not used in protein synthesis will be converted to glucose and then used to power their cells.

You're badly misusing that amino acid data.