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1. jmward+95[view] [source] 2025-12-21 20:36:46
>>neom+(OP)
Other medications become lifelong medications but without this level of scrutiny. I am 100% in favor of finding a more permanent treatment, but switching blood pressure meds, and cholesterol meds, and other daily meds for a single once a week med is a massive improvement, especially since the all source mortality data keeps rolling in showing the efficacy here is orders of magnitude better than all the other medications out there. A constant issue here is that we keep calling this a 'weight loss drug' and society views being fat as a moral failing ant that you 'just don't have the will power' to overcome. We need to stop. If this is a lifelong drug it is worth it compared to the relatively ineffective, and just as lifelong, alternatives out there.
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2. AaronA+B9[view] [source] 2025-12-21 21:06:16
>>jmward+95
But it is factually true that it’s a matter of willpower, no amount of reframing it is going to change that.

It’s not like others like myself, currently on a cut cycle, don’t experience hunger. The idea that we are just “lucky” ignores all the willpower and discipline we fight through to do it ourselves.

I’ve eaten about 800 calories today and it is 4pm. Just finished 90 minutes on the indoor bike. My stomach feels hungry. I experience that and just sit with it. That is the difference.

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3. thefz+h31[view] [source] 2025-12-22 06:37:01
>>AaronA+B9
You can't make this point here without getting down voted to oblivion.

I know many ultra endurance runners and they are all in very good - healthy - shape. The only thing they all have in common is that they are very, very disciplined people.

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4. array_+PE2[view] [source] 2025-12-22 19:45:37
>>thefz+h31
> I know many ultra endurance runners and they are all in very good - healthy - shape. The only thing they all have in common is that they are very, very disciplined people.

Right, but are you not seeing that this is orthogonal?

Meaning, is it that running MAKES YOU disciplined, or rather that people who are already predisposed to being disciplined are more likely to be runners? This says nothing about the genetic component of it.

And you would have to be born yesterday to truly think there is no genetic component. Even with alcoholism, we know it's hereditary. We know when it comes to compulsions there is a genetic component. This is not opinion, this is fact. We know this.

But specifically with food habits, you truly believe this is not the case? Do you not see how incredibly bold of a claim that is? How atypical, how surprising, that would be?

I'm not saying that some people are blessed and some are not. Everyone has the power to change their lives. But I AM saying that it's not the same for everyone. From the beginning, I have known some things come easier to some people. I thought this was common knowledge, a part of the human condition we were all aware of.

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