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>>neom+(OP)
I definitely lost weight easily on wegovy and just as easily gained it back when I stopped taking it. The whole experience definitely drove home how I needed to improve my mental health alongside any “purely physical” intervention. Same situation when I lost weight by meticulously calorie counting.

I think obesity is hard to fix even when you are not a “thermodynamics denier” (as another commenter said) because all you can practice is moderation from the get go. How many people would fail to fix their alcoholism if complete abstinence, even just a period of complete abstinence to rewire the brain, was never an option? They actually had to go down to the pub and practice stopping everyday at 1 pint?

>>maxaw+le
Excuse the ramble: it maybe sucks more for people with eating addictions than alcohol in some sense. I am an alcoholic and I've been sober for, I dunno, years and years now. I did actually go to pubs and cocktail bars when I first got sober, I didn't drink I just sat and felt awful and wanted to drink badly. I felt I needed to learn how the feeling of the craving was going to work so I can plan for it etc, especially when stress creeps in. So, as another comment said, I got sober by stopping the first drink. For me it's very logical, if I have a drink, I will drink, I will not stop, I cannot stop, so if I take the first drink it doesn't matter that is is, it's done, so I don't drink the first drink since I decided that, hence sober.

...I suppose it's hard for someone who struggles with eating to stop food all together. That said, after I got off booze, I started on sugar, never been into sugar in my life, didn't like cake, ice cream any of that stuff, but getting off booze that started, I craved ice cream and stuff all the time, and gave in not realizing what was happening, once I told my dr and he explained the body was substituting the alcohol... so I stopped sweet stuff (mostly all of it, honey and fruit juice seem fine, I don't crave them). I don't have very many cravings any more, I know that "you're going to crave this if you have it more than a few times" feeling as soon as I consume something now, and, I just, don't. Is it hard? Every time, but I prefer the control more tbh.

Maybe I live a kinda boring life now, oh well, at least I feel great.