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1. Silver+L5[view] [source] 2025-11-13 15:54:47
>>saubei+(OP)
Geopolitically this rift between the US and EU is great for adversaries like Russia and China.
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2. saubei+F6[view] [source] 2025-11-13 15:57:59
>>Silver+L5
The US doesn't really see Russia as an adversary under Trump.

Which begs the question, why should the EU see China as an adversary? That's mostly an American thing, the Pacific doesn't really concern us.

Maybe alliances will reshuffle in the future?

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3. F3nd0+va[view] [source] 2025-11-13 16:16:45
>>saubei+F6
Why should the EU not see an expansive authoritarian superpower as an adversary, or, at the very least, a real threat to its continued existence and sovereignty?
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4. toomuc+oc[view] [source] 2025-11-13 16:24:33
>>F3nd0+va
China needs Europe to support its export economy because there will never be enough domestic demand to prevent a deflationary spiral. Europe is a rational actor China can expect to act rationally in trade, and Europe can benefit from that.

The US has nothing to offer Europe except LNG that Europe cannot produce itself, or obtain from China at better price or quality. Canada has ~200 years of LNG reserves and can ship to Europe from LNG Canada.

https://tradingeconomics.com/european-union/imports/united-s...

https://ember-energy.org/data/china-cleantech-exports-data-e...

The True Cost of China's Falling Prices - >>45876691 - November 2025

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/americas-self-d...

> In 1995, China accounted for less than five percent of global manufacturing output. By 2010, that number had jumped to around a quarter, and today it stands at nearly a third.

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5. myrmid+Xh[view] [source] 2025-11-13 16:51:22
>>toomuc+oc
China is not exporting LNG at all, did you mean Canada?

The US is still a very large and attractive market for European exporters, and it would at the very least substantially least hurt Europeans if they had to fully substitute the US with China as a trade partner.

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