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1. Silver+L5[view] [source] 2025-11-13 15:54:47
>>saubei+(OP)
Geopolitically this rift between the US and EU is great for adversaries like Russia and China.
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2. saubei+F6[view] [source] 2025-11-13 15:57:59
>>Silver+L5
The US doesn't really see Russia as an adversary under Trump.

Which begs the question, why should the EU see China as an adversary? That's mostly an American thing, the Pacific doesn't really concern us.

Maybe alliances will reshuffle in the future?

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3. tr352+B8[view] [source] 2025-11-13 16:07:16
>>saubei+F6
The EU needs China. No green deal without Chinese batteries, solar cells and rare earth metals.
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4. saubei+99[view] [source] 2025-11-13 16:09:16
>>tr352+B8
And China needs the EU.

No rising Chinese middle class without the world's largest wealthy consumer market.

A match made in heaven ;)

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5. lm2846+eb[view] [source] 2025-11-13 16:19:20
>>saubei+99
Like Russia's gas and Germany's industry ;)

Or the EU relying on the US army for defense ;)

We're not in the post ww2 world illusion or world peace through commerce, mutual dependencies clearly don't stop nationalist interests. Trump shattered the illusion with his illegal meme tier tariffs, now we're slowly going back to empires dealing with their friends while fucking over anyone else.

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6. saubei+vb[view] [source] 2025-11-13 16:20:24
>>lm2846+eb
There is no conflict in our nationalist interests though. We are too far apart, unless we split up Russia between us...
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