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1. cjrp+M61[view] [source] 2025-11-05 09:53:54
>>jnsaff+(OP)
The AVHerald is usually the best source for these things, rather than MSM: https://avherald.com/h?article=52f5748f&opt=0

> Ground observers reported the aircraft had been delayed for about two hours for work on the left hand engine (engine #1), the engine #1 separated during the takeoff run, the center engine emitted streaks of flames, the aircraft impacted a UPS warehouse and ploughed through other facilities before coming to rest in a large plume of fire and smoke.

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2. chaost+is1[view] [source] 2025-11-05 13:23:00
>>cjrp+M61
This is likely relevant

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/airplane-maintenance...

TDLR 10-20 years ago, the US started allowing maintenance of domestic planes in foreign countries, outside the reach of the FAA’s inspections

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3. renewi+S52[view] [source] 2025-11-05 16:47:45
>>chaost+is1
I wonder what the FAA does organizationally that lets it function properly to find cause. It must be highly tempting to blame things on the foreigners and stuff like that. The Air India crash had a lot of that going on.

The 737 Max crashes were also so frequently explained by online commenters as because of “outsourced software engineers” and so on.

But the FAA/NTSB always comes through with fact finding despite the immense political pressure to find these facile explanations. Organizationally, someone once designed these things well, and subsequently it has been preserved so well.

When I see so many American institutions turned to partisan causes through an escalation of “well, they’re doing it” it’s pretty wild that this org remains trustworthy. Wild.

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4. mh-+vx2[view] [source] 2025-11-05 19:19:59
>>renewi+S52
The NTSB is completely independent from the FAA, by design.

The history of how that came to be is worth a read and answers your question better than I could.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Transportation_Safety...

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5. yard20+EC2[view] [source] 2025-11-05 19:49:46
>>mh-+vx2
You can't play with the NTSB. Just wait a few months and see, they will literally say the exact reason it happened and who's the one to blame in their report. These guys are the best at what they do. This is one of the government bodies other countries would dream to have.
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6. SAI_Pe+pY2[view] [source] 2025-11-05 21:38:50
>>yard20+EC2
The NTSB never assigns blame to people in their reports. They report what happened, and who did what, but their reports are not intended for use in a court and their advisories are always ways to fix procedures rather than blaming individuals.
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7. yard20+BV9[view] [source] 2025-11-08 08:31:10
>>SAI_Pe+pY2
Ofc! But they do such a good job you can almost always know who's the one to blame which goes hand in hand in what procedure should change. I don't mean blame as in malice but as in the weakest link. I believe it's just lost in translation because I don't speak English. Blame is just not the right word here
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