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1. hexbin+uk[view] [source] 2025-11-01 13:30:10
>>nh4321+(OP)
> “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and that an ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship—including a birth certificate—if the app says the person is an alien,”

This is "computer says no (not a citizen)". Which is horrifying

They've just created an app to justify what they were already doing right? And the argument will be "well it's a super complex app run by a very clever company so it can't be wrong"?

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2. Garnet+Ew[view] [source] 2025-11-01 15:10:28
>>hexbin+uk
Just like IBM said, a computer can't be held responsible for its decisions. Management's been doing this for a long time to justify layoffs and such. This is just the next step.
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3. roywig+yI[view] [source] 2025-11-01 16:31:27
>>Garnet+Ew
IBM wasn't held responsible either:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

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4. EA-316+YK[view] [source] 2025-11-01 16:46:09
>>roywig+yI
A lot of people and companies ultimately got away with that, because of either necessity or the manufactured perception of necessity. It's an important lesson about selective enforcement, and just how extreme the cases it can be applied to. From traffic laws to genocide, it's all negotiable for the powerful if there are benefits at stake.
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