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1. tmsh+s41[view] [source] 2025-09-11 00:53:22
>>david9+(OP)
Looking at recent events through a historical lens: the 1960s saw the assassinations of MLK, RFK, JFK, and Malcolm X during a wave of progressive change. Today’s assassination attempts and targeted violence seem to follow a similar pattern during periods of significant social and political shifts.

As RFK said after MLK’s death, we must choose between “violence and non-violence, between lawlessness and love.” His call for unity and rejecting hatred feels as urgent now as it was then.

Violence is never the answer. But understanding these tragic patterns might help us navigate our current moment with hopefully more empathy.

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2. pm90+Q51[view] [source] 2025-09-11 01:02:55
>>tmsh+s41
This is dangerous false equivalency. Charlie Kirk was not advocating for the rights of the downtrodden. He was a right wing provocateur, and he’s on the record saying that “some gun deaths are ok” in service of the 2nd amendment, and in making light of the nearly deadly political attack on the Pelosi family.

Political violence, especially deadly violence is not ok. But comparing Charlie Kirk to MLK is also not ok.

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3. strken+O71[view] [source] 2025-09-11 01:21:49
>>pm90+Q51
"Some gun deaths are okay" is saying the quiet part out loud, but it's not wrong. When you let a large group of people have access to something dangerous then some number of them will die and kill using the dangerous thing, whether the thing is cars or paracetamol or wingsuits or guns.

I say this as an Australian. We have a far more restrictive system of gun control than the US and yet we still see tens of gun deaths a year, because some gun deaths are okay even if we set the number a lot lower than the US does.

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4. darker+S91[view] [source] 2025-09-11 01:40:30
>>strken+O71
Was this one of the OK ones?
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5. nailer+vZ2[view] [source] 2025-09-11 16:54:50
>>darker+S91
He means lets not disarm ourselves for evil. Not that evil is OK, but that some evil may occur due to not disarming.

I disagree with him on guns, but that is the point.

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6. thranc+hs3[view] [source] 2025-09-11 19:53:37
>>nailer+vZ2
Evil is happening right now, the guns are freaking useless.
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